Crime & Punishment

So the incursionbears have adopted a new strategy to avoid killmails that we use to ridicule them here.... They eject from their ships before they're destroyed?

Nice job, fellas, nice job.

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This is the best shiit I've read for ages in C&P! Please keep on posting.

Indeed , I'm loving this thread

Because we don't like pilots who don't API verify their killmails. That's why.

I only just got into the cursions, but generally I don't think this is a personal attack, this is being done for the same reason as sucide ganking mackinaws, killing mission runners or decing high sec noobs. Its just something to do, and it can yield some really nice kills.

Since ive started incursioning I've been buying shiner ships and losing more ships, what goes around comes around so its likely that you'll just see more noobs with ships they shouldn't be in as a reasult of this.

Cursions, even though I hate to say it should probablly be nerfed though, the income does sort of blow any other career out of the water providing you have the ships to get in the fleets.

From a guy you would probablly gank

Rich.

Yes. Link me 10b in incursion **** killed with none of the kills being before the post I mentioned this in originally last night. They've got to be API verified.

Meh. In our line of work, one tends to acquire whatever BPOs pass by.

BOOM - 100 Billion isk destroyed

I'm just repeating what I heard from someone who knows a hell of a lot more about incursions than I do, namely a TDF director.

Even if they do shut themselves down in 1 week (I don't really know and don't particularly care), that's hundreds of billions of isk paid out, not counting LP, to a very limited number of pilots who spend their time doing little else. My main concern is that this is, as I quoted, a stagnating influence.

There is much less fuss made about the imbalanced nature of Incursions, as almost anyone who cares can actually do them themselves and make enormous quantities of isk, and therefore very few people actually think it should be changed; if there is a single problem with nullsec anomalies not paying out correctly, half of EVE would be up in arms on the forums, but with incursions it has been a long, slow percolation. Sure, CCP is aware, but the playerbase doesn't really keep any true secrets; it's a relative term. I'm sure I'm nowhere near the first to point this out, but it's something that deserves more attention.

You are being ragey and obtuse, please take your terrible rage and pointless insults elsewhere unless you can actually comment on the matter at hand. I think it's cute and all that you're so up in arms the moment someone says that your main income source should be removed, but seriously now.

But you're wrong. I mean I understand why you look at it from this perspective, being so unaware of so many variables and facts that intervene and interact in this enormous system.

I raged because it's the same deal, over and over again, in the same thread, but from different people. And yes I do understand you don't wanna read it all, but now I have to repeat myself.

You don't have the eyes of CCP, you don't have their data at hand and you can not judge what is affecting the economy in which way with a high accuracy. We can only guess, discuss and estimate.
The thing is, if incursions were messing up the economy then CCP would step in and do something about it. They monitor this closely, however since they haven't (yet) it must be working out fine so far. Right?

The other thing is it is extremely limited how many pilots can participate in incursions in highsec before it gets absolutely worthless to do it. Yes, the general saying is "anyone can join in", but if everyone joined it there wouldn't be anything for anyone! Crowded systems in vanguards, assaults and headquarters will ultimately leave everyone out better doing lvl 4's.

Please consider these numbers and weigh them against what you think about the rest of EVE.
At maximum peak times during the week incursions in highsec can generate up to 30 billion isk an hour (direct ISK faucet). At average this number is much, much lower.
At maximum peak times about 500 pilots are ACTIVELY in a fleet running incursions in highsec.
This is what is causing all the trouble? Because an average of little less than 500 pilots are running incursions in highsec? Because 5 % of the EVE population is doing incursions ^ that many people are pissed and jelly?


PS: Repeating what you heard is one of the biggest problems in EVE and real life. Just don't do it without having your sources listed so you don't look like a total douche.