Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Revamp mining completely.

As it stands, mining is the most boring thing in a game that, community aside (and I do love my EVE, don't get me wrong) is pretty boring.

Give us EXPLOSIONS.

Give us SURPRISE ROIDS

Give us EXPLOSIONS!! (bears repeating)

Give us NON-BORING MINING!

(By surprise roids I mean something along the lines of roids that explode but drop insane amounts of high-end mins, or the roid version of a faction spawn, or...something...)

The best part of ratting is that you never know when you're gonna get that beyond-shiny officer spawn. People live for officer spawns.

In contrast...if you mine a belt that is filled with veldspar, all you're gonna get from it is...veldspar. There's no oppurtunity for surprise, nothing that makes it fun...nor is it even particularly rewarding in terms of isk/hour. It is in fact less fun than other things (like ratting) which makes more iskies.
How is that logical?

So here is my advice to CCP.

Revamp mining completely.

Also, instead of taking high-ends out of wormholes, add low-ends to nullsec! If you want us to be self-sufficient in nullsec, make it so that its possible to get tritanium without going to empire for it.

Behold, my two isk.

Ewwww.

Exploding 'roids...

mining needs to be more interactive, what i think they should do is .....

• Instead of targetting the asteroid, activating the laser and sitting back to wathc your cargohol fill up make it so that the end of each cycle also knocks off an asteroid chunk which you need to target, tractor beam and scoop into your hold for a bonus amount of the ore.
• Introduce a new "pinpoint" mining laser and make each of these chunks give a very small % chance of having a rarer ore, when you get close enough to scoop it a warning pops up telling you that you detect traces of X ore in the chunk, you can then either scoop it or use the "pinpoint" laser to extract the rare ore.

So the procedure would be ....

1. Target Asteroid and engage mining lasers.
2. At the end of a cycle a chunk would be ejected from the asteroid as well a the normal mining amount added to your cargohold.
3. Target the chunk and engage the tractor beam until it's within scoop range.
4. If pop-up then engage "pinpoint" laser, or if you don't want to just scoop it for normal ore.
5. If no pop-up right click and scoop the ore iinto your hold.

This would give a bit more interactivity for those who want it, yet still leave it so that if you don't want to be as interactive you can carry on mining as normal.

ooh.

Shiny shiny ideas!

you could also send mining drones to do it. Because I doubt many people are going to give up one of their high slots fot a tractor beam.

This is a good idea, might help with the bots as well (although they would end up finding a new way to bot)

Nope. Mining is meant to be a passive income. Deal with it.

The Bot Speaketh! All Hail the Bot!

PVP Mining Concept

Lots of great ideas for the normal concept of mining... what about making 'mining' or more specifically refined mineral extraction part of pvp?

You could continue to have the usual static site mining processes. For the more pirate or pvp driven types, what about weapons which bore materials right out of your targets hull, once the shields are down?

Each ship already has a pre-requisit list of minerals present based on their blueprint. A new weapon type would be able to inflict a certain amount of damage by mining the minerals directly out of your opponents hull. The proportion of minerals you are able to extract will be a factor of the tech level of the weapon, and your gunnery skills (tracking, optimals, etc), and the total hull damage at the moment the 'bore' weapon strikes.

The fine balancing of this I will leave up to the programming types here... but it strikes me as a sensible evolution for a game driven towards pvp, where mining is the exception. Why should it be?

Imagine ganking that freighter as it enters low sec, and rather than issuing a ransom, you call in your Extraction ships, and melt the ship right out from under the pilots butt, giving you minerals to sell, his cargo drop, and a kill mail.

There would be risk... the attackers would need to hold the ship there whilst they 'extract' it. A process which I would envisage would take longer than simply pounding it with normal weapons fire. But the return would be higher as you would get the minerals, as well as the cargo drop, and kill mail. Risk v reward - subject to balancing.

You could even have a specialised ship type for this, with bonuses to webbing and tackling, as well as extraction rates, and rare mineral chance. But will be gimped in terms of defenses, alignment, and speed.

The specialist weapons could be mounted on normal ships. But for every one you mount that would be one less offensive weapon, and I would envisage lower dps than a 'normal' weapon type.

Just my pennies worth, to throw out for debate.

Missions and Incursions have explosions, those are what you're looking for.

No. It's a passive activity and the best passive income in the game. If you want something more active, do something else. This has been confirmed and re-iterated by devs a thousand times over.