EVE General Discussion

The Tear Tank is strong in this one

Posting because I'd hate to leave everyone with the impression that condescending ass-hattery is acceptable to all readers. To the OP, you have the patience of a saint to put up with personal attacks without calling them all jerkwads.

Agreed.

He can be a space gypsy if he likes and I approve.

Up until about 2 years ago EVE was going whatever path it wanted to basically.

Only in the last year have they started to address power creep and also stop breathing down everyone's neck who isn't in nullsec.

Its going to take a good amount of time to get everything in the shape it should be, (assuming they don't have another brainfart Incarna episode) so hunker in, plex your accounts and train up skills while putting your faith in Fozzie and Rise.

Oh looks, it's this thread again.

No one cares how long you've played, it's that simple. EVE players like you always give me a chuckle.

My point was (that you obviously didn't get) is that EVE is getting more balanced and therefore shouldn't be such a struggle for the OP to enjoy what he was trying to do in EVE.

A couple of thoughts....

NPC Nullsec is generally the "optimal" optoin for small corps wanting to live and experience nullsec without kissing ass to large alliances, but even there you can get pushed around!

The current Sov System is pretty prohibitive to "small groups" attempting to gain a foothold, and that should change. Realize, I don't advocate that a small group should be able to simply push some big coalition out of an area, and fully support giving coalitions the ability to have as much space as they desire with the ability to drown any kiddies that enter the "big boys" pool. However, the Sov mechanics should remove the "benefits" of simply holding space as some buffer zone, and really enforce the idea that if you don't use it, it becomes much easier to lose. I'd go so far as to eliminate all RF timers on Stations/IHUBs in any system that doesn't have an activity index (Indy, Military) to 1. I also admit that these are imperfect indexes for "system activity", not capturing Research, Manufacturing, Marketeering, and PvP, so additional activity indexes may be required.

Its not a sandbox game in null. The mechanics have been changed in null so that thers really only one way to play there and thats huge power bloc blob warrfare. Take away those mechanics that force players to play to that one style and you have sandbox again. Things like ease of power projection, cheap supercap n cap travel its a cancer to other groups trying to make a start in a remote part of null - because there is no remote section when within a short space of time a power bloc half way across the map can open a cyno drop a huge fleet in with almost no effort or risk and be back in save systems in no time at all.

Are the rewards for holding Sov terrible? Not really.
Are the rewards for holding Sov silly? Sometimes, yes.

It's the end game so far as EvE is concerned and it should be valuable. Is value added to it in the right way though? Not in my opinion.
I don't really know what exactly makes it feel weird, but the rewards don't feel natural. When I'm ratting in nullsec and gaining security status and earning 2.5m per minute in bounty sometimes I think that would be best left to lowsec. It would feel natural to be rewarded for doing so there. When I get a wonderful loot drop worth 1 billion, that feels natural, those are the benefits because it's EvE's version of the endgame.

But how could we possibly make this work?

Perhaps a modified milspec system where ratting provides some direct value but provides more sites of the pirate faction bringing in random special characters to try to bolster their presence at the end of an anom? And/Or Less direct value for running anoms and more escalations would also do nicely.


TL: DR : By not making the reward system feel natural you cause some to dislike it and that creates all sorts of different expressions of dislike. This may be the root of many different types of complaints. Nullsec should = phat loot and great ore, Lowsec should = less loot, more anti-piracy reward, mediocre ore, Highsec should be approximately what it is now.

Hello OP!

I am very sorry to hear that you plan to quit Eve and furthermore that you don't intend to pass on your stuff.

Unfortunately, according to forum rules, resignation threads will be moved to Out Of Pod Experience (OOPE).
Maybe you didn't know this yet- to make things a little clearer, I made a diagram that might explain it a little better and hopefully may serve you well for future reference:

http://i.imgur.com/tvvl6WG.jpg

On the plus side, once this thread is in OOPE, we will lighten the mood of it by posting lots of ponies in here.