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ash gaud
Heavens Own
#1 - 2013-06-06 12:15:54 UTC
hi im basically a rookie just outa diapers right from the beginning I was working on exploration. It seemed like a small niche career option with much profit possibilities. I invested much SP into it and it got better as I went faster and more goodies. I have reciently got to the point where I can fit a cloaking device and goto low sec. this has provided much more goodies. then the new patch hits now the vast majority of what I get is total junk. ie batteries data sheets carbon and scraps. WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!! sure I used to find the occasion empty container no biggie move on and next one would have something worth at least alittle but not anymore. the vast majority is total junk it makes me want my SP back so I can chose a new route now.

-mini game is time consumeing but fine I can appreciate the additional difficulty in cracking the container.
-its the looting that is abhorid not only the irritating need to click little cans while watching dscan but the fact that there
is never anything worth while in them. I would like to see the looting go back to the way it was with the big payout
and all, I no longer want to pick up datq sheets or carbon or scraps from a site if u cant make it valuable
then don't bother putting the can in the game
-if u don't wish to change it fine give me an option to turn in my hacking archeology and all my varios astrometrice SP iv spent since I started so I can do something worthwhile
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#2 - 2013-06-06 12:21:27 UTC
There are things worth while in them, you just need to gt lucky just like exploration used to be, basic RNG. or try going into less secure area's of space i hear there are higher rewards.

SP is never reimbursed, stop being a total moron with no common sence and just do a google search maybe?

 ♥ 
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-06 12:23:09 UTC
Fit a cargo scanner to quickly identify the worthwile cans. All that is really changed is that instead of nothing you get that low value junk. The good stuff is still there to be found, just like before.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#4 - 2013-06-06 12:25:19 UTC
I too would like to have all my SPs refunded as I cannot be bothered to travel out of Hi Sec also.


"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Neromu
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-06 12:28:58 UTC
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#6 - 2013-06-06 12:41:10 UTC
Princess Saskia wrote:
There are things worth while in them, you just need to gt lucky just like exploration used to be, basic RNG. or try going into less secure area's of space i hear there are higher rewards.

SP is never reimbursed, stop being a total moron with no common sence and just do a google search maybe?




yo smart ass I did high and low sec pre and post patch I only compared the totals to equal levels and they are clearly lower now or perhaps they added a second teer of luck base in the grabing when u only needed one lucky roll b4 to get good stuff
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2013-06-06 13:12:22 UTC
ash gaud wrote:
Princess Saskia wrote:
There are things worth while in them, you just need to gt lucky just like exploration used to be, basic RNG. or try going into less secure area's of space i hear there are higher rewards.

SP is never reimbursed, stop being a total moron with no common sence and just do a google search maybe?




yo smart ass I did high and low sec pre and post patch I only compared the totals to equal levels and they are clearly lower now or perhaps they added a second teer of luck base in the grabing when u only needed one lucky roll b4 to get good stuff


Dear Oaf,

You have neglected to mention how many times you have tested each version and what the % likely hood of quality drops is.

Your grasp of english is also repulsive.

Signed,

Yer Ma

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Gil Roland
Roma Aeterna
#8 - 2013-06-06 13:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Gil Roland
ash gaud wrote:
hi im basically a rookie just outa diapers right from the beginning I was working on exploration.


Move on and get to the real core of exploration: wormholes. I'd recommend to train for a T3 strategic cruiser and improve your explorer skills, instead of asking for sp reimbursement. Watch your wallet though, before you bring your T3 in the unknown, maybe you want to poke your nose with a cheetah, just to learn the basics of invisibility at a lower price.
Bones Kringe
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-06-06 13:46:46 UTC
As a new player myself, its honestly not as bad as you make it you're just not paying attention to details. Hacking and looting are very simple.

If you have hacking higher than level one it shouldn't be difficult. A good strategy is to get every node you can while ignoring every fire wall and anti-virus except for restoration nodes. Once you can no longer get any nodes and you have not found the system core you begin to take out the defenses and you should of found ample upgrades along the way.

As for looting strap on a afterburner or microwarp drive and you'll be able to get more of then. Also, I'm not sure if you read but the containers that fly into the air give a pretty good description of what is going to be in them... Such as, scraps container, data container and so on...

Stop crying and start paying attention to details and what works so you can improve your situation. Idea
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#10 - 2013-06-06 13:51:26 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
Princess Saskia wrote:
There are things worth while in them, you just need to gt lucky just like exploration used to be, basic RNG. or try going into less secure area's of space i hear there are higher rewards.

SP is never reimbursed, stop being a total moron with no common sence and just do a google search maybe?




yo smart ass I did high and low sec pre and post patch I only compared the totals to equal levels and they are clearly lower now or perhaps they added a second teer of luck base in the grabing when u only needed one lucky roll b4 to get good stuff


Dear Oaf,

You have neglected to mention how many times you have tested each version and what the % likely hood of quality drops is.

Your grasp of english is also repulsive.

Signed,

Yer Ma

dear ******** troll I didn't say I did an exhaustive research of the topic only a small 20-40 site check of each wich is enough to get the jist as far as gramer and spelling I useualy have a secretary do that for me however I don't hire ones with poor attitudes like yerself. thx for the flames though it clearly shows your need for my atension :D
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#11 - 2013-06-06 13:55:03 UTC
Bones Kringe wrote:
As a new player myself, its honestly not as bad as you make it you're just not paying attention to details. Hacking and looting are very simple.

If you have hacking higher than level one it shouldn't be difficult. A good strategy is to get every node you can while ignoring every fire wall and anti-virus except for restoration nodes. Once you can no longer get any nodes and you have not found the system core you begin to take out the defenses and you should of found ample upgrades along the way.

As for looting strap on a afterburner or microwarp drive and you'll be able to get more of then. Also, I'm not sure if you read but the containers that fly into the air give a pretty good description of what is going to be in them... Such as, scraps container, data container and so on...

Stop crying and start paying attention to details and what works so you can improve your situation. Idea




I can hack them all, I can collect 7 outa 10 cans give er take my only issue is with the quality of the loot in the cans. and if your a rookie for the most part there was a link earlier in this thred that gave a good general idea of wich cans to grab first and I sorta figured that out on the first day still dosent mean that the end of the day quality of loot is the same as it was b4. I will say I am continueing to test however my prelims sugest a far lower level of loot quality my issue with grabing cans is more of an irritation then a problem.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2013-06-06 13:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
ash gaud wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
Princess Saskia wrote:
There are things worth while in them, you just need to gt lucky just like exploration used to be, basic RNG. or try going into less secure area's of space i hear there are higher rewards.

SP is never reimbursed, stop being a total moron with no common sence and just do a google search maybe?




yo smart ass I did high and low sec pre and post patch I only compared the totals to equal levels and they are clearly lower now or perhaps they added a second teer of luck base in the grabing when u only needed one lucky roll b4 to get good stuff


Dear Oaf,

You have neglected to mention how many times you have tested each version and what the % likely hood of quality drops is.

Your grasp of english is also repulsive.

Signed,

Yer Ma

dear ******** troll I didn't say I did an exhaustive research of the topic only a small 20-40 site check of each wich is enough to get the jist as far as gramer and spelling I useualy have a secretary do that for me however I don't hire ones with poor attitudes like yerself. thx for the flames though it clearly shows your need for my atension :D



Im not a troll.


You really DO have the manners of a dog's ass.


And you admit to being lazy too. Which means you really HAVENT bothered leaving Hi Sec.


Whats the matter, truth hurt fatboy?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#13 - 2013-06-06 13:58:14 UTC
Gil Roland wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
hi im basically a rookie just outa diapers right from the beginning I was working on exploration.


Move on and get to the real core of exploration: wormholes. I'd recommend to train for a T3 strategic cruiser and improve your explorer skills, instead of asking for sp reimbursement. Watch your wallet though, before you bring your T3 in the unknown, maybe you want to poke your nose with a cheetah, just to learn the basics of invisibility at a lower price.



definitely good advice this was my end goal as I like the look of WH exploration but will be some time b4 I can realy do much there. not realy expecting a SP refund that wasd jst to point out the disappointment of the quality change.
Blackphish
Goatsnake Heavy Industries
#14 - 2013-06-06 14:02:09 UTC
Its quite easy to guess which cans have the good loot if you scan the hack/relic can before beating the mini game, if your only getting the junk loot your doing it wrong.
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#15 - 2013-06-06 14:02:51 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
Princess Saskia wrote:
There are things worth while in them, you just need to gt lucky just like exploration used to be, basic RNG. or try going into less secure area's of space i hear there are higher rewards.

SP is never reimbursed, stop being a total moron with no common sence and just do a google search maybe?




yo smart ass I did high and low sec pre and post patch I only compared the totals to equal levels and they are clearly lower now or perhaps they added a second teer of luck base in the grabing when u only needed one lucky roll b4 to get good stuff


Dear Oaf,

You have neglected to mention how many times you have tested each version and what the % likely hood of quality drops is.

Your grasp of english is also repulsive.

Signed,

Yer Ma

dear ******** troll I didn't say I did an exhaustive research of the topic only a small 20-40 site check of each wich is enough to get the jist as far as gramer and spelling I useualy have a secretary do that for me however I don't hire ones with poor attitudes like yerself. thx for the flames though it clearly shows your need for my atension :D



Im not a troll.


You really DO have the manners of a dog's ass.


And you admit to being lazy too. Which means you really HAVENT bothered leaving Hi Sec.


Whats the matter, truth hurt fatboy?




lol once again u show how much u need my atension troll how cute of you lol jst like a girl :D. didn't say I was lazy at all jst havent decided I want to be a spred sheet designer and do data collection lol I got better things to do lol. iv done both high and low sec though I don't see why u see it as a big issue low sec isn't much different then high sec its not like lilly pads like u can shoot me down anyway lol.
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#16 - 2013-06-06 14:07:49 UTC
Blackphish wrote:
Its quite easy to guess which cans have the good loot if you scan the hack/relic can before beating the mini game, if your only getting the junk loot your doing it wrong.



I am gona add a scanner to the mix see if it helps much. but in general im getting almost all the cans accept scrap cans anyway so I don't think knowing whats inside b4 starting will change the loot but I guess I will see. all im saying in this post is pre patch I get an average of 10-30 mil per site now average is less then 1mil. yes my data pool is very small (maby 20 in each low and high sec) and yes only a couple days worth of trying im not saying my research is exhaustive only prelim looks bad.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#17 - 2013-06-06 14:08:41 UTC
ash gaud wrote:
lol jst like a girl .... lilly pads like u can shoot me down anyway lol.


Im sorry now I really dont believe you have a secretary if this is how you talk to women.

And you kiss your mother with that mouth?



But its no bother to me if you want to sit here and lie about leaving High Sec.

Just another post for CCP to ignore from a whiny little nothing who thinks he's entitled to something without having to work for it.


ash gaud wrote:
hi im basically a rookie just outa diapers.



You should probably keep them, your mouth is leaking.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#18 - 2013-06-06 14:17:30 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
lol jst like a girl .... lilly pads like u can shoot me down anyway lol.


Im sorry now I really dont believe you have a secretary if this is how you talk to women.

And you kiss your mother with that mouth?



But its no bother to me if you want to sit here and lie about leaving High Sec.

Just another post for CCP to ignore from a whiny little nothing who thinks he's entitled to something without having to work for it.


ash gaud wrote:
hi im basically a rookie just outa diapers.



You should probably keep them, your mouth is leaking.



lol u again lol A) u are not a woman jst a lil kid how I talk to u dose nto reflect anything in real life lol though if someone was opening there sucker like this in real life I would definatly treat them like a lil piece of sh*tski lol. and once again I don't see a work difference between high sec and low lol if anything low sec is easyer because there is less compition for the sites lol. truth is in an hour I can complete more sites in low sec then high sec lol so its actualy less wok lol.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#19 - 2013-06-06 14:21:15 UTC
ash gaud wrote:
I don't see a work difference between high sec and low



Well then you should probably learn about it. Its a very important difference in the game.


Heres all about High Sec;

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=High-Sec

Heres all about Low Sec;

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Low-Sec

Here's what you are also lacking;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette

And here is a sight about using the english language correctly;

http://www.learntospell.org.uk/

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
ash gaud
Heavens Own
#20 - 2013-06-06 14:23:48 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ash gaud wrote:
I don't see a work difference between high sec and low



Well then you should probably learn about it. Its a very important difference in the game.


Heres all about High Sec;

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=High-Sec

Heres all about Low Sec;

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Low-Sec

Here's what you are also lacking;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette

And here is a sight about using the english language correctly;

http://www.learntospell.org.uk/



k gota admit yer trolling is starting to bore me feel free to continue to post though perhaps ill come back later if I need another chuckle at a low self steamer lol. have a good day lol.
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