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Deep Space Probe Exploration Guide

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5nipe
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-09-08 10:23:42 UTC
Miles Parabellum wrote:
So, no matter the ship, skills or chosen probes - If the signature strength is less than 0.01, I'll never see it because of game mechanics?


not really,

it is because scan results signal strength column has only 2 decimal digits

I was really frustrated with it in first place
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2011-09-14 17:22:14 UTC
Bump!

I would like to take this moment to thank Mnemosyne Gloob and Emperor Salazar for their help and patience in my completion of my spreadsheet Smile
yer mammy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-09-15 10:13:18 UTC
Have my babies.
Cedille Mureau
Institute of Archaeology
#24 - 2011-09-15 11:06:13 UTC
Now this is what I call contributing to the game.


Many thanks.Big smile


Wish I was as talented.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#25 - 2011-09-16 00:02:09 UTC
St Mio wrote:


I would like to thank the following people for their help in putting all this together: (in no particular order)
Emperor Salazar/xxSketchxx for his DSP Strength Predictions sheet on which mine is based




Yours is much prettier and more elaborate than mine, but I'm glad someone picked up where I left off (I took about a 6 month hiatus after publishing that).
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#26 - 2011-09-16 03:52:10 UTC
I've been using your HTML version for a few days now and it has definitely changed how I approach exploration. Thanks, St Mio. This is very much appreciated.

_ _

Wormerling
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-09-16 10:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Wormerling
Yesterday I did some scanning in a C2 wormhole and want to confirm some wromspace info.

My probe sensor strength was equal to 13,2 and, as supposed, I've been using a deep core scanning probe with distance set to 256AU.

The following sites had strength of 0,26%:

  • Ordinary Perimeter Deposit (Gravimetric) x1
  • Sizeable Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x4
  • Token Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x2
  • Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x4
  • Minor Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x1
  • Wormhole K162 (Unknown) x1
  • Wormhole B274 (Unknown) x1


The following site had strength of 0,17%:

  • Wormhole D382 (Unkown) x1


The following site had strength of 0,13%:

  • Unexceptional Frotier Deposit (Gravimetric) x1


The following site had strength of 0,10%:

  • Wormhole Y683 (Unkown) x1


The following site had strength of 0,07%:

  • Unsecured Perimeter Comms Relay (Radar) x1 - this should fall into 0.06% category I guess


The following sites had strength of 0,06%:

  • Unsecured Perimeter Comms Relay (Radar) x2
  • Unsecured Perimeter Transponder Farm (Radar) x1
  • Forgotten Perimeter Habitation Coils (Radar) x2
  • Isolated Core Deposit (Radar) x1


P.S. Thanks for nice html version!
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2011-09-18 10:10:10 UTC
Thanks Wormerling!

Updates:
· Low-sec page updated with all the remaining Radar and Mag sites (thanks to the guys in Exploration chat again for your submissions).
· Pretty icons addeed (courtesy of CCP Toolkit)

Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#29 - 2011-09-21 22:35:57 UTC
I've got 1 bump for immediate delivery, is this the corner of Washington and 32nd? Anyone?

Screw it, i'll just leave it here...

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears

Mark Douoglas Hamil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-09-23 10:32:18 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Want to spend less time scanning and more time looting faction wrecks?
Want to separate the wheat from the chaff faster?
Want to be able to farm your region dry and keep respawning the good sites?

I present to you my Deep Space Probe Exploration Guide:
http://www.swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp

I would like to thank the following people for their help in putting all this together: (in no particular order)
Emperor Salazar/xxSketchxx for his DSP Strength Predictions sheet on which mine is based
Daesis Wrack for providing me with the strength formula
Aandaan, Daneel Trevize, Kirian Kador and ReguIator for the wormhole data they collected
All the regulars from "Exploration" channel in game (I'm not going to name you because I'll end up missing someone), all the players who've shared their knowledge on the forums (with a special mention going out to DeMichael Crimson & Miss Moonwych), and last but not least, to all the pirates who didn't shoot me while I was out collecting data. o7


well ichecked it with a deep space probe, and i was wondering how can i know what my scan strength is, i use dees space scan with a 5 scan strenght and i have noticed that the radar, magno's i found were in spectrum 0.08 and in 0.04. But i had set the strenght on the website to 4.
Now i ve got frigate lvl 5 and with an imcus i get strenght 0.17 the website says its 0.16 for unknowns so how do use the website?
5nipe
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2011-09-23 12:05:45 UTC
There are some plexes you missed, not sure if they should be added tho.

If you go to Black Rise (hi sec of it) you can find Unknown signature which is part of Caldari epic arc:

Federation Detention Facility FNSBR-106V

It is quiet interesting plex, despite the fact you get serious hit to your standing to Gallente. I know people farm it for tags after DT and in hope for some Faction BS spawn. The issue is once everything cleared plex remain till nex td, or someone got thru gate and trigger it off.

When I was scanning Black Rise I always used DSP to filter this plexes out.

I not sure, but I presume such kind of plex exists for each faction in particular region.

In any event with DPS strength 10 and radius 256 signature is 0,07 if memory serves me right.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-09-23 12:18:19 UTC
Thanks 5nipe, I guess I'll have a look around Black Rise for it this weekend. I'm sure there's still plenty of COSMOS and Epic Arc sites I'm missing from my lists.

Mark: this guide unfortunately won't help you to find Radars faster if all you're looking for is Radars.

If you're looking for a specific site (e.g. Local Gurista Minor Shipyard) or sites on the same rows (e.g. Gurista Scout Outpost, Gurista Watch and Local Gurista Data Processing Center) then it will help.

But I'm assuming you're looking for sites based on column (i.e. only Radars) in which case you can't exclude any signatures because (almost) all of them have a chance of being some kind of Radar. Sorry :(
Wormerling
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2011-09-26 15:55:57 UTC
St Mio wrote:
But I'm assuming you're looking for sites based on column (i.e. only Radars) in which case you can't exclude any signatures because (almost) all of them have a chance of being some kind of Radar. Sorry :(

It's not your fault, Mio =)

Also, I've done several C2, C3 and C5 wormspace system scans since my last post. Just wanna tell that I've not encountered any differences between your table and the results yet (I have written down some particular info like before but not sure if that is of any interest).
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#34 - 2011-09-26 16:49:11 UTC
Hi St Mio

I have unfortunately come across a lot of inconsistencies in the information for wormholes, but I think I am definitely doing it wrong.
I'd just like to ask, where do I read the exact strength for my probes? I currently will open fitting window (in space) and show info on the sisters deep space probes that are loaded. Showing a base strength of 11. Is this correct?
I then type that into the HTML sheet and get calculated values. However the k162 (large band) is about 0.2 + calculated, but I never gets readings over 0.12!
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#35 - 2011-09-27 14:11:24 UTC
Utterly awesome!

I've been getting a feel for scan strengths myself using regular probes, but I guess DSP are a more accurate way of doing this. :)

Any chance you could also include low-sec nebulas in the web page by the way?

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2011-09-28 21:14:24 UTC
I'm working on the Nebula names slowly but surely... there's (at least) 64 of them so it will take a while :P
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#37 - 2011-09-28 21:23:54 UTC
Xearal wrote:
Any chance you could also include low-sec nebulas in the web page by the way?


It's worth noting that some nebulas appear in highsec as well, in certain regions. The "Ladar Region" check box isn't available for highsec... but it probably should be ;)
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2011-10-08 11:51:06 UTC
Bump for the weekend crowd \o/

And no, I haven't gotten around to Ladar Nebulas yet
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#39 - 2011-10-08 16:54:14 UTC
St mio,

I figured out what I did wrong.
I thought you'd have to put the deep space probe several AU away from the center of the solar system (100 au further away than the outer planet) to get the most exact and correct readings.
Turns out, if you do that you more than half you scan strength readings when trying to compare it with your datasheet.

So from now on I just launch the probe where I am and do the scan.
And behold! I can use your lovely sheet with extreme accuracy <3,
Thank you!
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2011-10-08 18:15:42 UTC
I should probably mention somewhere that one needs* to scan using the DSP from right next to your ship instead of moving it Big smile (Well not has to but I digress)