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First day - a little ice mining report

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Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2013-06-06 12:00:14 UTC
Rhoads07 wrote:
*Since Devs think they can just lock posts because they think they are the same when in fact they are not, I'll just re-post here with my response the Devs think they are going to block ....

As I had predicted in the previous thread I fully expected you followers and peasants to blindly be sheparded wherever the company wishes to take you. So have your trolololol's because no F's were given! Blink


It was exactly the same drivel that's rampant in this thread. "Waa I can't afk and win this game anymore". Amuginsly enough, one would imagine you'd have lots of time to concentrate on your mining character, considering your pvp character sure isn't getting any action.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#162 - 2013-06-06 12:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
Johnnie Blue wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Eh, silly question but could you share that knowledge perhaps?
Been running around in Amarr space and I haven't got a clue where the ice belts are now. Oops



The complete list of high security systems that will contain Clear Icicle anomalies is: Afivad, Agal, Avada, Bashakru, Chanoun, Dantan, Dihra, Erkinen, Esteban, Gamis, Gelhan, Gosalav, Jarzalad, Jerma, Kothe, Manatirid, Miah, Moutid, Ordion, Raravoss, Riavayed, Seil, Talidal, Warouh.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for


And as for when they will appear, it's 4 hours from the time they were depleted. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's 4 hours to the minute. So as long as you're aware of when a previous instance of this system's ice field was seen, you should be able to reliably predict the time it will next appear.

And since the ice fields are reset at DT, you always know when the first one appeared :)

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Rhoads07
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#163 - 2013-06-06 12:07:57 UTC
Borlag Crendraven wrote:
[quote=Rhoads07]Amuginsly enough, one would imagine you'd have lots of time to concentrate on your mining character, considering your pvp character sure isn't getting any action.


Perhaps you meant amusingly? ... You also make the foolish presumption this is my primary. Keep trying though... Only trolololol's is on this side!
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#164 - 2013-06-06 12:15:06 UTC
The New Order of Highsec couldn't be happier about the changes to the ice fields.

There is a certain amount of desperation out in those ice anoms. Yield fitting is back and bigger than ever. There are anti-tanked Orcas in every anom just asking for it. Our bumpers are more effective than ever and permit sales are through the roof. Just landing in an ice anom in a Stabber Fleet Issue causes a bit of panic these days. And all that is stuffed into a little 50km ball of awesome! It's all a bit over-whelming to be honest.

Also, we're running a special on permits in celebration of this incredible expansion! You can purchase your own permit for 10 million isk and every other permit you buy for "friends," corp-mates, or even family will only cost an additional 10 million isk per character!

If you think you have what it takes to join the New Order, contact the nearest Agent immediately. We can't wait to hear from you!

Well done CCP!

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Rhoads07
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#165 - 2013-06-06 12:15:16 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
[quote=Rhoads07]
also i'm sure this "will cause you to lose money" argument is wrong, old, and terrible. i'm sure it's more dead and flogged than the "nerf afk cloaking" horse.


Would you care to elaborate?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2013-06-06 12:23:18 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


- Today we had no bots (and people actually chatted!), they are still broken due to the patch.
Moreover there's a lot of people who did not inform themselves about the patch (so they don't know what to do), unable to log in etc. etc.
This resulted in 37 to 55 people being in local instead of 190 to 222.


... You don't realize that those two comments are directly related?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#167 - 2013-06-06 12:24:01 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
laassaalos Kiblos wrote:
Why not just have multiple mining vessels docked in a large region. Send out scouts to scan for ice. Once found everyone hops into their shuttle gets to the closes mining boat and goes to the belt.


It's easier than that: simply run a timer from when each belt was last depleted. You already know which systems they're going to spawn in anyway (poor design IMHO) so you just have to head over there at the appropriate time.



I am greatly enyoing having 17 in local (most being my alts).

I am now abusing of one of the worst MMO gameplay mechanics ever invented in the industry for great profit.

If I was a regular EvE crappy selfish mindset player I'd be overly happy that a popular feature just got restricted to those like me. But alas I am not.

If a 222 people in local system will remain 17 in local for the rest of the month, it means that a sizable portion of playerbase got downright cut off.

What'll happen when those 222 - 17 subs will be about to expire? I don't want to EvE to slow down development / miss features because CCP trashed 20% of their playerbase overnight.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#168 - 2013-06-06 12:25:15 UTC
Xython wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


- Today we had no bots (and people actually chatted!), they are still broken due to the patch.
Moreover there's a lot of people who did not inform themselves about the patch (so they don't know what to do), unable to log in etc. etc.
This resulted in 37 to 55 people being in local instead of 190 to 222.


... You don't realize that those two comments are directly related?


They are partly and obviously related. But since I also know how many were botting, there's still a drop of about 60%+ of the "real" players.

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Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2013-06-06 12:27:20 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Xython wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


- Today we had no bots (and people actually chatted!), they are still broken due to the patch.
Moreover there's a lot of people who did not inform themselves about the patch (so they don't know what to do), unable to log in etc. etc.
This resulted in 37 to 55 people being in local instead of 190 to 222.


... You don't realize that those two comments are directly related?


They are partly and obviously related. But since I also know how many were botting, there's still a drop of about 60%+ of the "real" players.


Some of them might be taking advantage of the ease in finding grav sites too. Give it a little bit of time before making any long term predictions about how many are truly quitting.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#170 - 2013-06-06 12:28:18 UTC
I like the new Ice belt system. I hope they use it for static Ore belts.

Let the tear cup flow over.

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Dave stark
#171 - 2013-06-06 12:32:55 UTC
Rhoads07 wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Also i'm sure this "will cause you to lose money" argument is wrong, old, and terrible. i'm sure it's more dead and flogged than the "nerf afk cloaking" horse.


Would you care to elaborate?


yes. the game keeps growing every year despite changes that people keep claiming will "cost ccp money", for a start.

a specific example, look at the story they told every one at fanfest after the first corp theft i think it was. 500 players quit (which then, was a lot) because ccp let it happen and didn't do anything about it. this intrigued even more players, and they had >500 new players start playing to see this wonderful game where being a master thief was encouraged and made you the stuff of legend.

there have been many examples since then where a few players stamp their feet and **** off, and even more people replace them wanting to experience a game that really is quite different to the other cookie cutter grind for gear mmos out there.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#172 - 2013-06-06 12:36:00 UTC
Robert Saint wrote:
So here is an impression of this new ICE deal from someone with a fleet of ICE miners..

Logged in my 12 miners, tried to get my daily 3000 blocks, got about 300 total before it was over (all of 20 minutes).

Stationed up the miners, deleted all the ICE rigs from their Skiffs and set them up for mining ORE in a different quiet little system.

Not going back to that mad house....... Ore is the new ICE, baby!

You have a reformed ICE Multi-Boxer...... now I'm an ORE multi-boxer!!!

It was extremely funny to watch everyone trying to grab a little bit of something that had been so plentiful.

Although, I'm out of the ICE business with my little herd, I think CCP did a great job making it a much better solo or very small fleet experience now.

It's was almost like going on a level 4 mission!





From what I've seen of Soundwave's interviews and appearences, the man does not like static resources.

Don't get too attached to those belts is what I guess I'm saying here.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#173 - 2013-06-06 12:39:06 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


What'll happen when those 222 - 17 subs will be about to expire? I don't want to EvE to slow down development / miss features because CCP trashed 20% of their playerbase overnight.


Ah, the good old "EVE will die if I don't get my easymode ISK" line. It's ben a while since I saw that one.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#174 - 2013-06-06 12:42:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


What'll happen when those 222 - 17 subs will be about to expire? I don't want to EvE to slow down development / miss features because CCP trashed 20% of their playerbase overnight.


Ah, the good old "EVE will die if I don't get my easymode ISK" line. It's ben a while since I saw that one.


Wrong as usual.

I am earning more than before and nicely doing it.

I just happen to not be one of the "elite EvE politically correct - who-ejoys-the-others-misadventures" pompous prat mentality.

Stop embarassing your former self.

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Seniae 0n3
#175 - 2013-06-06 12:44:44 UTC
Malcanis wrote:



From what I've seen of Soundwave's interviews and appearences, the man does not like static resources.

Don't get too attached to those belts is what I guess I'm saying here.


So you're saying that ORE belts will become like ice fields, scan, mine and wait for respawn? Sounds good to me.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#176 - 2013-06-06 12:50:10 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
From what I've seen of Soundwave's interviews and appearences, the man does not like static resources.

Don't get too attached to those belts is what I guess I'm saying here.


Can't be soon enough :)

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#177 - 2013-06-06 12:51:19 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


What'll happen when those 222 - 17 subs will be about to expire? I don't want to EvE to slow down development / miss features because CCP trashed 20% of their playerbase overnight.


Ah, the good old "EVE will die if I don't get my easymode ISK" line. It's ben a while since I saw that one.


No, it's the "if enough players unsubscribe, CCP will have to cut staff" line.

You really need to get that sand out of your sensitive parts.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#178 - 2013-06-06 12:56:37 UTC
32 in local. I want to go to bed. But there is SO MUCH ICE.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#179 - 2013-06-06 13:04:38 UTC
Just want to say, I have a freighter full.
Seniae 0n3
#180 - 2013-06-06 13:07:46 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
32 in local. I want to go to bed. But there is SO MUCH ICE.



I'll just sleep while you guys are mining ice ... run a mission or two and then buy it from the market Big smile ... keep up the good work ... mine those cubes!