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Breaking News: Yanala forced into Tea Maker Ceremony

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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#81 - 2013-05-26 18:15:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Utremi Fasolasi
Fredfredbug4 wrote:


Now, now. A night in a Gallente club is enough to show you that the Caldari are more refined and civil than we will ever be.


I dunno man. A room of people jamming to the latest Egonics stars blissed out on Blue Pill is pretty chill, we must hang out different places. Caldari seem pretty repressed in public but in private are very different. Picked up some Civire chaps here and there during my trips to Caldari space and man those blokes are raw beasts in private quarters. Not the least bit romantic like Gallente or sensual like Intaki. Deteis - they are a little too kinky for my tastes. You wouldn't believe the things this one Deteis officer asked me to do, I walked right out. And they say things in private that would make a Valklear blush. Handsome devils though.
Shiori Shaishi
Doomheim
#82 - 2013-05-26 18:34:41 UTC
Forcing the tea should not merely be poetic justice but have the weight of history behind it. Let Heth brew his own, if he is so inclined.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#83 - 2013-05-26 21:08:31 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Verin Hakatain-haan, I suspect this whole mess stems from that original post on the matter, as it was immediately quoted and followed with a bounty on his head. Let me be clear then:

To be clear, the bounty I placed was done before that statement, though I admit the wording of my reply may be rather venomous. Given some time to think, however, I stand by my decision.

I will admit it may not be the proper thing to do by Caldari standards, but I will make no apologies for acting against a man who seems hell-bent on destroying the Caldari way that gives rise to such standards. Heth is content to use his power to wage war on the Caldari way, I will do everything I can in my power to stop it; I don't have any loyal thugs to do my bidding, so I must instead use my assets to hire thugs.

Yes, I would like to see Heth removed from power by the CEP, and put on trial for his crimes. So far, that isn't happening. After every atrocity we hear of him commit, and every blunder that harms the State, and every self-serving announcement, Heth remains in power. KK is not removing the man who is destroying them, and the CEP has yet to tell Heth that enough is enough and reassert their authority. No justice is being done as long as nobody is pursuing the person responsible for the crimes and nobody is searching for the truth in what has happened; trial and sentence is the last step in justice being served, not the first, and the investigation hasn't yet begun.

I should also note, that Heth being brought to justice is only ONE of the things that must happen, more important is preventing him from taking further actions against the State and creating more victims. If that comes about in a way that leads to him standing trial, then that's great; if that comes about through his death, so be it.
Derek Quaid
Doomheim
#84 - 2013-05-26 21:18:43 UTC
Is anyone seriously surprised by this?

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2013-05-26 23:17:47 UTC
Derek Quaid wrote:
Is anyone seriously surprised by this?

I can think of at least one person who will be...

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

SeDSilva
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-06-03 15:18:32 UTC  |  Edited by: SeDSilva
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Emile Belfleur wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You should probably take time to learn more about others before telling them what to do.

I know enough about you to know that you claim descent from Garoun aristocracy, just like me. So act like it, Captain.


I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry.


Ahh, a Gallentean finding excuses to meddle, while playing the victim. I was surprised to find the more honorable of the federation to take a step back and let a wounded animal lick its wounds, a shame not everyone can follow that fine example of honor.

The State has faced greater hardships, loosing your entire home world to the enemy is difficult to top. Every war has its traitors and heroes. We shall do what we have always done, we will persevere and endure.
Larissa Newport
Slavers Unbound
#87 - 2013-06-03 19:53:17 UTC
Where does it say that the results of the lie detecting gizmo's were positive or negative? It says that CEP discussed the results. I rather wait for a CEP conclusion of the investigation than to speculate.

-- Chaos always wins, it is simply better organized.

Gabriel Darkefyre
Gradient
Electus Matari
#88 - 2013-06-03 20:03:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Larissa Newport wrote:
Where does it say that the results of the lie detecting gizmo's were positive or negative? It says that CEP discussed the results. I rather wait for a CEP conclusion of the investigation than to speculate.


http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/tibus-heths-yanala-speech-cut-short-by-riot/

From the mouth of Executor Heth himself. I don't know if everything in Executive Officer Erinen's testemony was 100% correct as regards the detection apparatus, but Executor Heth confirmed the central point :- He forced Admiral Yanala to undertake the Tea Maker ceremony.
Larissa Newport
Slavers Unbound
#89 - 2013-06-03 20:35:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Larissa Newport
Gabriel Darkefyre wrote:
Larissa Newport wrote:
Where does it say that the results of the lie detecting gizmo's were positive or negative? It says that CEP discussed the results. I rather wait for a CEP conclusion of the investigation than to speculate.


http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/tibus-heths-yanala-speech-cut-short-by-riot/

From the mouth of Executor Heth himself. I don't know if everything in Executive Officer Erinen's testemony was 100% correct as regards the detection apparatus, but Executor Heth confirmed the central point :- He forced Admiral Yanala to undertake the Tea Maker ceremony.


Could well be full of false-negatives. The CEP will make a wise decision no doubt, but I don't think they can drop Heth easily. The rabbit hole is most likely a lot deeper than we all think and a good rabbit always has more then one exit.

I still underwrite the goals set by Heth and I haven't read anything yet that makes me say he should be purged.

-- Chaos always wins, it is simply better organized.

Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#90 - 2013-06-06 08:53:19 UTC
Larissa Newport wrote:
Gabriel Darkefyre wrote:
Larissa Newport wrote:
Where does it say that the results of the lie detecting gizmo's were positive or negative? It says that CEP discussed the results. I rather wait for a CEP conclusion of the investigation than to speculate.


http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/tibus-heths-yanala-speech-cut-short-by-riot/

From the mouth of Executor Heth himself. I don't know if everything in Executive Officer Erinen's testemony was 100% correct as regards the detection apparatus, but Executor Heth confirmed the central point :- He forced Admiral Yanala to undertake the Tea Maker ceremony.


Could well be full of false-negatives. The CEP will make a wise decision no doubt, but I don't think they can drop Heth easily. The rabbit hole is most likely a lot deeper than we all think and a good rabbit always has more then one exit.

I still underwrite the goals set by Heth and I haven't read anything yet that makes me say he should be purged.

Caldari people have weird customs.
For example, if they lose just a battleship, that was issued to them by the State, they take their own lives. And since Admiral was given so much honour with a whole Leviathan in a strategically important position, and lost it, the amount of dishonor for this should be really colossal. If she didn't take her life herself, than what Mr.Heth did, was saving her own honor.
I think her family should be grateful to him, in some weird Caldari sense.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#91 - 2013-06-06 12:24:30 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:

Caldari people have weird customs.
For example, if they lose just a battleship, that was issued to them by the State, they take their own lives. And since Admiral was given so much honour with a whole Leviathan in a strategically important position, and lost it, the amount of dishonor for this should be really colossal. If she didn't take her life herself, than what Mr.Heth did, was saving her own honor.
I think her family should be grateful to him, in some weird Caldari sense.


Hi, foreigner here, sorry for the silly question. Aren't you guys big on like, ROI? It seems like a huge ISK sink to me to throw out all that education and training, particularly given that the lifespan of your average warship in New Eden is, uh, not very long.
Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#92 - 2013-06-06 18:15:38 UTC
Andrea Okazon wrote:
Mika Firestorm wrote:

Caldari people have weird customs.
For example, if they lose just a battleship, that was issued to them by the State, they take their own lives. And since Admiral was given so much honour with a whole Leviathan in a strategically important position, and lost it, the amount of dishonor for this should be really colossal. If she didn't take her life herself, than what Mr.Heth did, was saving her own honor.
I think her family should be grateful to him, in some weird Caldari sense.


Hi, foreigner here, sorry for the silly question. Aren't you guys big on like, ROI? It seems like a huge ISK sink to me to throw out all that education and training, particularly given that the lifespan of your average warship in New Eden is, uh, not very long.

I am afraid you are asking wrong person. I am merely working for Caldari, but don't fully understand their way of life.
What I can answer to you, is that not all battleship captains throw out 'all that education etc', but rather captains of battleships, issued with honor by the State.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Laurienne 'Quafegirl' Cherbourg
Like Oh My Gosh I Totally Have A Corp Now
#93 - 2013-06-07 08:17:33 UTC
I feel sorry for the Admiral miss Yanala.

If I had to drink something knowing that it would be my last drink, I think I'd know what I want~.

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Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#94 - 2013-06-08 13:39:09 UTC
Laurienne 'Quafegirl' Cherbourg wrote:
I feel sorry for the Admiral miss Yanala.

If I had to drink something knowing that it would be my last drink, I think I'd know what I want~.


I'm Captain Okazon, and this is my favourite post on the Summit.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#95 - 2013-06-08 15:46:08 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:
For example, if they lose just a battleship, that was issued to them by the State, they take their own lives. And since Admiral was given so much honour with a whole Leviathan in a strategically important position, and lost it, the amount of dishonor for this should be really colossal. If she didn't take her life herself, than what Mr.Heth did, was saving her own honor.
I think her family should be grateful to him, in some weird Caldari sense.


That's if they lose a State Issue Battleship, not just any battleship. State Issue Ravens are very rare, fairly powerful, and not to be placed in combat situations without dire need. Ergo, if you lose a State Issue Raven, you have almost certainly made a mistake, and a bad one.

Ships don't automatically come fitted with "x" amount of honor which you have to uphold. It is how you perform your duty that matters. If the captain of a State Issue Raven lost his ship in a successful and heroic defense of New Caldari, his suicide would probably not be expected. On the other hand, a cruiser captain who manages to lose his Moa to no advantage is one more cruiser pilot than we need.