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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-06-06 07:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
CCP,

To garner yourself some more free "publicity", and to stir the passion of your players I suggest you do the following!


Open up Jovian space, but make it a weapons-free zone, carebear paradise!11!!Attention


Blink

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-06-06 08:13:40 UTC
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-06-06 08:17:57 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
CCP,

To garner yourself some more free "publicity", and to stir the passion of your players I suggest you do the following!


Open up Jovian space, but make it a weapons free zone, carebear paradise!11!!Attention


Blink


Amazing....

There is nowhere currently that exist where you are weapons free to attack anybody so this is going to be awesome.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
flakeys
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-06 08:20:20 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
CCP,

To garner yourself some more free "publicity", and to stir the passion of your players I suggest you do the following!


Open up Jovian space, but make it a weapons free zone, carebear paradise!11!!Attention


Blink


Amazing....

There is nowhere currently that exist where you are weapons free to attack anybody so this is going to be awesome.



He means you can not use/have weapons there. Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#5 - 2013-06-06 08:23:46 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


Those "mega fleet battles" take a hell of a lot of behind the scenes work, consume tens of thousands of player-hours and cost hundreds of billions of ISK. We don't engage in them just so you can spend 15 minutes reading a TMC article.

If you want more of them, maybe arrange a few yourself.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-06 08:24:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
Hey guys,


This was supposed to be a silly thread...

Shocked

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7 - 2013-06-06 08:26:24 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


Those "mega fleet battles" take a hell of a lot of behind the scenes work, consume tens of thousands of player-hours and cost hundreds of billions of ISK. We don't engage in them just so you can spend 15 minutes reading a TMC article.

If you want more of them, maybe arrange a few yourself.


This. Especially from this guy, who oughta know.

EVE is all about player created content, the whole point of this game is that it's what you make of it. You want to get some "real PVP"? Go find some, it's out there.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-06-06 08:32:42 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Hey guys,


This was supposed to be a silly thread...

Shocked


I know...

That is why my response was in the form of sarcasm.

But others take things a bit to serious.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-06 08:34:53 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


player vs player is not mega fleet action.

you want MFvMF and that does happen often in 0.0 - its just not fun like you think it is.

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-06 08:41:22 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


Those "mega fleet battles" take a hell of a lot of behind the scenes work, consume tens of thousands of player-hours and cost hundreds of billions of ISK. We don't engage in them just so you can spend 15 minutes reading a TMC article.

If you want more of them, maybe arrange a few yourself.


Mr. CSM, you work for me: get off your duff and not be a white knight CCP mouthpiece, and get some more recurring PvP battles in the game. Bear

Now if WoW could have 3 day long 40v40 battles years ago, what's the excuse for EvE to not break a node to have 40v40 in 2013?

Don't make excuses, get cracking!

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2013-06-06 08:44:22 UTC
I say we shut off that free isk fountain that ice mining has turned into!

Oh, wait...

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-06 08:44:35 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Open up Jovian space, but make it a weapons-free zone, carebear paradise!11!!Attention


Free weapons?, as in a good ol' ibis brawl?

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-06 08:46:32 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


Those "mega fleet battles" take a hell of a lot of behind the scenes work, consume tens of thousands of player-hours and cost hundreds of billions of ISK. We don't engage in them just so you can spend 15 minutes reading a TMC article.

If you want more of them, maybe arrange a few yourself.


Mr. CSM, you work for me: get off your duff and not be a white knight CCP mouthpiece, and get some more recurring PvP battles in the game. Bear

Now if WoW could have 3 day long 40v40 battles years ago, what's the excuse for EvE to not break a node to have 40v40 in 2013?

Don't make excuses, get cracking!


That doesn't even get close to breaking a node, and 40vs40 fights happen literally all the time all over new eden. You need to go out more.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-06-06 09:00:06 UTC
Borlag Crendraven wrote:
That doesn't even get close to breaking a node, and 40vs40 fights happen literally all the time all over new eden. You need to go out more.


Do they last for 3 days and more?

Go out and check.

You won't find them.

I can get more PvP action by the hour in WoW because it costs nothing but time. But as the CSM pointed out, in EvE, it costs too much to PvP at the scale that is worthy to call PvP these days.

See the problem?

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#15 - 2013-06-06 09:02:32 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


I can get more PvP action by the hour in WoW because it costs nothing but time. But as the CSM pointed out, in EvE, it costs too much to PvP at the scale that is worthy to call PvP these days.

See the problem?



Yeah I do

Kiting Condors and Neuting Dragoons are just soooooo expensive these days

The economy is about to implode.

At least in WoW all your high level gear is given away for free in really convenience places that you can sololto.......

Oh wait...

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#16 - 2013-06-06 09:04:58 UTC
Dude....they are rampantly deleting bittervet posts.

Watch.


I'd rather have chocolate biscuits, because mint chips give me the *****.
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#17 - 2013-06-06 09:06:56 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


Those "mega fleet battles" take a hell of a lot of behind the scenes work, consume tens of thousands of player-hours and cost hundreds of billions of ISK. We don't engage in them just so you can spend 15 minutes reading a TMC article.

If you want more of them, maybe arrange a few yourself.


Mr. CSM, you work for me: get off your duff and not be a white knight CCP mouthpiece, and get some more recurring PvP battles in the game. Bear

Now if WoW could have 3 day long 40v40 battles years ago, what's the excuse for EvE to not break a node to have 40v40 in 2013?

Don't make excuses, get cracking!



Can't.
Busy.
Webcam.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-06-06 09:33:33 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Or how about some real PvP, instead of this dog and pony show of one?

You know mega fleet battles and not a couple times a year? And last longer than a couple of hours?


Those "mega fleet battles" take a hell of a lot of behind the scenes work, consume tens of thousands of player-hours and cost hundreds of billions of ISK. We don't engage in them just so you can spend 15 minutes reading a TMC article.

If you want more of them, maybe arrange a few yourself.


Mr. CSM, you work for me: get off your duff and not be a white knight CCP mouthpiece, and get some more recurring PvP battles in the game. Bear

Now if WoW could have 3 day long 40v40 battles years ago, what's the excuse for EvE to not break a node to have 40v40 in 2013?

Don't make excuses, get cracking!


Considering the complaining you just did about how EVE isn't sandboxy enough, your pleas for someone else to make things happen are a little inconsistent to say the least.

I will say this. Only a fraction - a small fraction - of the fights that happen in 0.0 ever get mentioned to people who weren't involved in them. If you rely exclusively on the gaming media for your impression, then you'll think that nullsec gets like 2 fights a month. But the reality is that eg: my alliance has been involved in 200-400 man fights several times a week for the last few weeks. And that's to say nothing of the numerous skirmishes, gate camps, ganks, roams, hotdrops, escort ops, etc etc which are the sugar sprinkles on the mostly unseen iceberg of 0.0 fleet fights

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#19 - 2013-06-06 09:37:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
Mega fleet fights are boring as hell. Don't know how that's a selling point for Eve

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-06-06 09:51:57 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Considering the complaining you just did about how EVE isn't sandboxy enough, your pleas for someone else to make things happen are a little inconsistent to say the least.


Not really, Malcanis. I'm a player in EvE. That my role.

You're a CSM, your role is to present to CCP the needs/wants/suggestions of such players.

If you can't do your job, maybe you should consider being a player instead.

It's called...responsibility.

Maybe young man, you'll learn something about that, and not giving lip.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
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