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CCP amuses me when you all thought ice and r64 were the only score this patch they bring you....

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#121 - 2013-06-05 23:32:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
Let me see if I understand you

"RIGHT NOW! they are selling below build cost"

I show that in my region they are not

You say

"AH, I meant Jita"

So, I log jita, and show that they are not too

The PI prices are accurate for jita as of 2 minutes ago.

Now you say "Oh, I meant in the future"

You will note that IPH prices Herm at 124k

Jita sell price RIGHT now is 124k, because they got bought out.

Until this afternoon it was 64k.

so, either you were overpaying for your Herm, or you were selling too cheaply
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#122 - 2013-06-05 23:34:57 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Let me see if I understand you

"RIGHT NOW! they are selling below build cost"

I show that in my region they are not

You say

"AH, I meant Jita"

So, I log jita, and show that they are not too

The PI prices are accurate for jita as of 2 minutes ago.

Now you say "Oh, I meant in the future"


You're twisting my words.Even at the moment PI prices for HM and SPS in jita are NOT accurate because of the patch, they have been before the patch but not after it.I'm saying they will correct themselves soon exuse me for not explaining simplerRoll

knowledge is power.

Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#123 - 2013-06-05 23:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
When were they selling below build cost in Jita, you said they were.

"Haha well, like i said its nothing on a grand scale even if I tell someone now they will not be able to earn more than 6-7b and that will require 2-3weeks time the best part of the pie was rather small and i ate it already."


Of course, you may well have meant "Buy them now, sit on them".....

But, that is not clear from your "Cash in NOW!" tone
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#124 - 2013-06-05 23:43:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Rhivre wrote:
When were they selling below build cost in Jita, you said they were.

"Haha well, like i said its nothing on a grand scale even if I tell someone now they will not be able to earn more than 6-7b and that will require 2-3weeks time the best part of the pie was rather small and i ate it already."

And i posted that on patch day but whatever I'm done with this thread you can ask me questions troll me w/e I don't care.

One last thing i post and Im out
The best PI spreadsheet existing in eve for me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar_YTOcXpvb9dGFIdHJlb0VmYXBORWRrcXFkeHNjcWc#gid=10

Last I will mention that this is the outdated build cost but for what people will decide to sell is totally different thing.

knowledge is power.

Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#125 - 2013-06-06 00:41:00 UTC
POPCORN!

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."

Hieren Andven
Liberated Planet Development
#126 - 2013-06-06 00:50:51 UTC
lol
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
#127 - 2013-06-06 01:27:08 UTC
thanks you for the tip and that spreadsheet link

I learned few interesting things on this thread
Manny Moons
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2013-06-06 01:27:15 UTC
Wait - can't the PI people like, you know, make more?
Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
#129 - 2013-06-06 01:33:12 UTC
Now can we close this thread since OP secret method is as bad as expected ?

I sell drones and drones accessories.

Lara Dantreb
Reisende des Schwarzschild Grenze
#130 - 2013-06-06 07:17:03 UTC
Markus Navarro wrote:
Now can we close this thread since OP secret method is as bad as expected ?


I have to disagree : OP really found something original and used it cleverly. He kept his word and gave the necessary explanations. Of course this is not THE important thing that we could have imagined.

However behind the suspense, there was an objective and concrete evidence. I'm not disapointed.

This deserves an award... check your wallet Grozen Blink

---   Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005  ---

Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2013-06-06 08:14:36 UTC
Lara Dantreb wrote:
Markus Navarro wrote:
Now can we close this thread since OP secret method is as bad as expected ?


I have to disagree : OP really found something original and used it cleverly. He kept his word and gave the necessary explanations. Of course this is not THE important thing that we could have imagined.

However behind the suspense, there was an objective and concrete evidence. I'm not disapointed.

This deserves an award... check your wallet Grozen Blink

Both Hermetic Membranes and supercomputers primary use is in POS related modules and towers. And guess what? most POS related items are selling very poorly right now, with large towers down 50M from around 2 months ago.

And not only that with the increased costs of POS fuel players will be spending more time doing PI to create their own fuel blocks to cut down on costs. Basically this means all PI prices are going to go down. Hell look at robotics. Even with the huge speculation on fuel blocks/ice robotics are down 15K from just a few weeks ago.

So congrats fellow, you made a bad bet that PI prices will be going up.
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#132 - 2013-06-06 12:54:12 UTC
Came expecting epic reveal of another :CCP:. Left disappointed.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#133 - 2013-06-06 15:04:17 UTC
Grozen wrote:


How did I found?Well i tried to build 1pcd after the patch and I couldn't that made me look at what is missing so I can build it and then I noticed these new materials.So no I'm not insider or in any way related to CCP just a humble industrialist oh and for once in your life learn to say thanks.I could have kept this under raps for god knows how long.But I'm not the usuall grief troll eve player.So enjoy!


This was covered by the removal of T2 mats from T1 modules, but I was expecting added minerals, not PI mats, but still the difference is insignificant. No suprise here for me, sorry.

If you invested 13 billion into this, I'm sorry but your profits are not going to be near what you expected.

Did you forget to subtract the cost of the T2 mats after you added to cost of the new PI mats?

Also the only reason PCD sells in high volume is because of the low price. if the price goes up to much the sales will drop.

Another tidbit for you that has not really had an effect yet. These PCD's are used mostly for the Cloak MWD trick, which does not work so well any more due to lag caused my the system scanner running everytime you jump into a new system. When player realize the stealth nerf of the MWD cloak trick, the sales of these will drop huge, regardless of price.

Your find is unique enough to not be embarrassing, but certainly not something anyone "missed out on"
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#134 - 2013-06-06 15:09:55 UTC
Manny Moons wrote:
Wait - can't the PI people like, you know, make more?

Yup, just like the cost of nano past after the acilary armor repair module was added, prices of naopaste dropped from around 40,000 to 17,000 due to PI characters stepping up production of the mats.

Don't sit on these, as the prices will drop fast, very soon.
Kadl
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#135 - 2013-06-06 15:12:41 UTC
Grozen wrote:
Jason Xado wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238311&find=unread


Thanks well I guess I saved myself 10b lol too bad nobody took the bet to make look fool.However they still didn't mentioned the fact what materials are going to be used.


Yes you are lucky that nobody took the bet. As soon as I saw the prototype cloaking device mentioned I remembered that CCP post. The materials requirements are interesting. Perhaps I have some of those materials already laying around somewhere. At least the research into other things will not be wasted.
Laurence C
Toxin Solutions
#136 - 2013-06-06 16:37:51 UTC
thank you for telling us. It def was a quiet change,
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#137 - 2013-06-06 19:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Manny Moons wrote:
Wait - can't the PI people like, you know, make more?

Yup, just like the cost of nano past after the acilary armor repair module was added, prices of naopaste dropped from around 40,000 to 17,000 due to PI characters stepping up production of the mats.

Don't sit on these, as the prices will drop fast, very soon.


Nanite Repair Paste went up because of speculation, check further down on the market history. they might have settled a lower than before the speculation, but they weren't 40k before it.
Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
#138 - 2013-06-06 20:23:44 UTC
I actually bought and flipped the few dozen that were still selling low last night in my region. I know its 'cool' to be a **** on the forums, and this thread was a little too melodramatic, but he did as he said and told some of us in a PM before he posted here, and I did make money so.. thanks man.

It wasn't a get rich quick scheme, but it helped a new guy double a stack.
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli." 
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#139 - 2013-06-07 01:52:32 UTC
Grozen wrote:
Here it is ladies and gents the moment you've all been waiting for! Big smileThe change i was talking for is prototype cloaking device I bpo


Glad you weren't using the other non documented change, which imo is an exploit and needs to be fixed.
Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
#140 - 2013-06-07 03:28:44 UTC
Is the answer 'daffodils' ?
I've done some really stupid shit in this game.