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t3 locked out of 4/10 site

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nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-05 22:17:24 UTC
Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.

T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.

If t2 command ships can enter 4/10 sites why cant t3's hell any battlecruiser can enter them.

So what the point of having a ship that made to explore when you lock out 4/10s and stick them to only 5/10 and up?

WTF CCP.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
GreenSeed
#2 - 2013-06-05 22:20:40 UTC
because highsec is for new players, if you are a grown up go explore low or NPC null.

there's a ton of space on NPC null that sees less than 4 - 5 jumps/h, go there.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-05 22:20:49 UTC
because **** you that's why.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Havoc Zealot
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-06-05 22:22:37 UTC
So you are saying they turned off your easy mode? OH NOESS!!!!
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#5 - 2013-06-05 22:23:33 UTC
all trollin aside, you knew it was to easy in the first place didnt you? Lol

Oderint Dum Metuant
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2013-06-05 22:24:00 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.

T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.
No. T3 are ships to do just about anything, with a penchant for doing it in tricky environments… i.e. not 4/10s.

T3s are massive overkill for 4/10s anyway, and if you can fly one, you can fly a HAC or something that will still be allowed in and do the site with ease.
Sarmatiko
#7 - 2013-06-05 22:30:45 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.

I think, when you talk about T3 and 3/4/10 you confusing "exploration" with "easy riskless farming".
T3 made for exploration, so go and explore - it's whole new exciting world behind high-sec gates.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-05 22:32:41 UTC
Btw, I've found T3 is best in C1, C2 and C3. Also pretty good in < 0.5. Lol
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-05 22:40:52 UTC
Who said anything about high-sec? The 4/10s are off limits in low-sec too. It may not be brain surgery, but I wouldn't exactly call it easy to PvE in a shiny in low-sec.
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-05 22:47:45 UTC
as yes 9 trolls so far nice.

And the reason i dont go to fanfest all the AAAclowns i would ........ well you get the point.

eather way still messed up there was no call for them locking 4/10s out.

well after 5 long years iam not resubing my account this was the straw the broke the game for me.

Way to many ship changes probing on easy mode and all the other bull$^)#$ ccp but in a explore build and locked out a ship witch i might add with the probe subsystem is made for it 4/10 and they locked them out.

Ya we got a free probing battlecruiser that cant tanks **** and has **** dps so iam done and no my stuff will rust in my hanger you cant have it.

 [13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-06-05 22:49:53 UTC
okay peace it's not as if you paid out of pocket anyway

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Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-05 22:50:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
nat longshot wrote:
as yes 9 trolls so far nice.

And the reason i dont go to fanfest all the AAAclowns i would ........ well you get the point.

eather way still messed up there was no call for them locking 4/10s out.

well after 5 long years iam not resubing my account this was the straw the broke the game for me.

Way to many ship changes probing on easy mode and all the other bull$^)#$ ccp but in a explore build and locked out a ship witch i might add with the probe subsystem is made for it 4/10 and they locked them out.

Ya we got a free probing battlecruiser that cant tanks **** and has **** dps so iam done and no my stuff will rust in my hanger you cant have it.




Well you must be upset as I supported you and one person posted twice, so I count 7 (before Andski posted). I guess now I am 8.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-05 22:50:41 UTC
I will be your OBGYN for today... now let's get that nasty old sand out of there

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-06-05 22:50:58 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
as yes 9 trolls so far nice.
well after 5 long years iam not resubing my account this was the straw the broke the game for me.


Can I have your T3?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#15 - 2013-06-05 22:53:40 UTC
nat longshot wrote:
as yes 9 trolls so far nice.
Really? I only count three.

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eather way still messed up there was no call for them locking 4/10s out.
Sure there was. They were simply ridiculously mismatched. The ship restrictions are there for a reason, and the T3s did not comply with them.

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locked out a ship witch i might add with the probe subsystem is made for it 4/10
No, they're not. No ship is “made for 4/10”. There are plenty of ships not made for them, though, and now T3s are added to that list since there's absolutely no reason to allow them in. If you want to argue that more ships should be locked out as well, then sure, but that's not really the route you're taking…
Seniae 0n3
#16 - 2013-06-05 22:55:22 UTC
You know you're OP when things get too easy
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#17 - 2013-06-05 23:27:23 UTC
Tippia wrote:
nat longshot wrote:
Ok over a year ago i got my Loki for ded 4/10 site and now there locked out of them WTF.

T3 are ship to explore and you lock them out of 4/10's i understand 3/10 site but 4/10's.
No. T3 are ships to do just about anything, with a penchant for doing it in tricky environments… i.e. not 4/10s.

T3s are massive overkill for 4/10s anyway, and if you can fly one, you can fly a HAC or something that will still be allowed in and do the site with ease.

Uh no. Different skills between a HAC and T3.

Let's follow your logic though.10 pirates ganking a Venture is overkill too. CCP nerfing gate camps?
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-06-05 23:32:17 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Let's follow your logic though.10 pirates ganking a Venture is overkill too. CCP nerfing gate camps?


They can't nerf unscripted content.

They can't fix gate/station sentries neither by the way Lol

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-06-05 23:32:49 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
because highsec is for new players, if you are a grown up go explore low or NPC null.

there's a ton of space on NPC null that sees less than 4 - 5 jumps/h, go there.


Loki is a combat class ship meant for PvP (Marauders are the PvE ships, designed for mission running lvl 4+s)...so off to low/null for ISK farming. They're forcing miners out there, the rest of the lazy scared profiteers in big expensive ships need to follow.

A Moa is fine for 3/10, a Drake for 4/10. Perfect ships for skilling players that need the tank for those sites. Anything else is being a chicken to possible PvP. Got the T3 ship, put it in it's environment, which isn't newbie sites.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2013-06-05 23:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Nexus Day wrote:
Uh no. Different skills between a HAC and T3.
None that matter or can't be picked up in minutes.

So just go get a HAC and get on with it, or a pirate cruiser if you're particularly lazy.

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Let's follow your logic though
Ok. What other content is there that are designed around mechanical restrictions on what you can bring in order to maintain a minute shred of risk to your paintjob?
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