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ccp's wish

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Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#21 - 2013-06-05 21:17:49 UTC
I used to make 200 mil a weekend just mucking around in c2/3 wormholes...surely you can make more than that actually livning there?

I don't think you are being forced to play a way someone else wants you to play, just that thigns have changed as they always do in EVE, if you can't survive then thank you for your time here.

Did you moan when Blizzard changed pallies too?
Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#22 - 2013-06-05 21:19:13 UTC
You're unsubbing 4 accounts over a few hundred mil isk per month?

You shouldn't be running four accounts if such a small change in costs screws you. Your fault, not ccp. Thanks for your generous contribution to my tear jar.
Seniae 0n3
#23 - 2013-06-05 21:21:22 UTC
Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:
You're unsubbing 4 accounts over a few hundred mil isk per month?

You shouldn't be running four accounts if such a small change in costs screws you. Your fault, not ccp. Thanks for your generous contribution to my tear jar.


Yeah you're so awesome ...
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-06-05 21:25:49 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
price of fuel is to high i cant afford to keep my pos running past a month or so and yes i have stock pile for about 2 months stored but i don't think it will go down before i run out


Lives in a wormhole, an area of space well-known for it's ability to gush out isk, yet can't afford to run a POS.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2013-06-05 21:27:12 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play
You're not unless you let them.
So the question is: why do you let them?
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#26 - 2013-06-05 21:39:09 UTC
ok so i just put pen to paper you guys keep saying 200 mill it adds up to 1,572,425,600 to fuel my pos and only plex the 2 for 30 days
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#27 - 2013-06-05 21:49:32 UTC
i can make that even in the c1 i live in by pi on the 2 acounts i use to plex but thats spending about 2 houres a day just on pi thats boring as hell ever time i get some sigs spawn some one from a larger wh eather comes in and farms them while im gone or in a force to large to fight used to afk mine cant do that now (and befor you say yes i know its stupid to afk mine in a wh but i do it with one guy cloaked on the static to here fire and i dscan ever so often so its not 100% afk ) and im not going to grind out to get level 4 missions they are boring as hell as well so what am i missing that you are doing to make 1.5 bill just for pos fuel and 2 plex
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-05 21:50:31 UTC
Maybe recruits some like minded players into your corp and share the cost of the POS?
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#29 - 2013-06-05 21:55:46 UTC
i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff
Pepper Solette
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-06-05 21:58:42 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
i can make that even in the c1 i live in by pi on the 2 acounts i use to plex but thats spending about 2 houres a day just on pi thats boring as hell ever time i get some sigs spawn some one from a larger wh eather comes in and farms them while im gone or in a force to large to fight used to afk mine cant do that now (and befor you say yes i know its stupid to afk mine in a wh but i do it with one guy cloaked on the static to here fire and i dscan ever so often so its not 100% afk ) and im not going to grind out to get level 4 missions they are boring as hell as well so what am i missing that you are doing to make 1.5 bill just for pos fuel and 2 plex


I actually found myself trying to read that in one breath without realizing.

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Vince Snetterton
#31 - 2013-06-05 22:18:46 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff


CCP, this man represents a group of players that the null sec cartel's tell you "CCP, don't worry about these solo players who threaten to quit. You know that we are the only content creators in the game and you must cater to our demands exclusively if you want the game to survive."

Sir, I recognize your pain.
If I may try to read your thoughts from between the lines, the time you have to put in to make up the difference in fuel cost is just not worth it.

Outside of the Eve null sec cartel leaders who play this game for a living, very few have unlimited hours to play Eve.
So for the people suggesting that this guy somehow find more time to grind the ISK to pay for his POS, maybe he does not have the time. Maybe he can't possibly grind any more ISK out his C1 running with the playstyle he has described.

I am sure the null sec propagandists who profited immensely from these changes just gloat and say "suck it up, change your playstyle."

Well, maybe he likes his solo playstyle, and the fact is that he does not want to play any other way, especially if he has to deal with the treachery that is celebrated by a specific type of person in this game, and by a subset of game designers who share the same mental outlook on life.

We know the null sec cartels don't give a crap if he leaves the game.
The question is does CCP care? So far, their actions mirror that of whatever propaganda the null sec cartel outs out.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#32 - 2013-06-05 22:27:09 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
I am sure the null sec propagandists who profited immensely from these changes just gloat and say "suck it up, change your playstyle."
Why would they when it has nothing to do with nullsec?
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#33 - 2013-06-05 22:28:04 UTC
you actuly hit it dam near spot on lol other than null parts of it i cant realy speak to that because i dont know much about it but the rest is golden
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#34 - 2013-06-05 23:06:14 UTC
Can I have the stuff from one of those accounts?
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#35 - 2013-06-05 23:06:50 UTC
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Why would they when it has nothing to do with nullsec?


how come it dont you dont think that 20 % pf the ice afects null ?
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-06-05 23:08:12 UTC
Let me introduce you to my friend the capslock key.
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#37 - 2013-06-05 23:11:39 UTC
there are 2 things i come to terms with when i was 19 ill never be rich and i cant spell all your little insultes and flameing in the world cant change that and normaly i inorg them but hey im board watching tv cant play eve
Strom Crendraven
The H8teful Eight
#38 - 2013-06-05 23:15:58 UTC
Borlag Crendraven wrote:
Eh, if this is about fuel prices, anyone with half a brain can afford that with literally any and all activity in wspace no matter what class hole they live in. If it's about the changes to scanning, which I think it is, all that's really changed is that now it is even more important to pay attention. If you're not ready nor willing to do that, too bad so sad, wspace is better off without such players anyway.


Epic douchebag who has most obviously never lived in WH by himself, based on other posts in forums im starting to doubt he has ever even been in a WH. Soloing a C1/ C2 is no way to ritches, it is barely survival unless you sink every free moment of your life into it. Anything that takes isk away from this equation is death to the solo guys that live in WH's. Of course Borlag doesn't understand this because he doesn't have what it takes to live in a WH by himself, and i find it hilarious that the guy who posts "And no, I don't consider the troubles of farmers to be a drawback in the least." is here advocating "farming" your WH more.

OP, its tough and if you do have to leave know that you have accomplished what less than 1% of the rest of the people in this game could even if it was for a short time. As for the asshats giving you grief here, just look around the forums a bit thats pretty much what they do. Apparently their eve experience is so awesome it can only be handled in very short doses and they must spend the rest of their time here trolling people thats how leet they are.
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#39 - 2013-06-05 23:16:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Loan--Wolf
i also just want to put it on paper for the record
1.i like most of the changes
2.im not saying change ice back or even the spawn amount
3.im not even crying about the gaves alltho i think the risk verser reward is one sided to risk now


all i am saying is that a change that digs this deep into the economy of eve should have been discused with the players

only thing i would change is the 4 houre respawn time so the price of ice can stable if you want to make it deplet thats fine make it respwan and have to be scaned down or something

edited to add i am mostly happy with the changes the new fire sound is a anoing tho lol
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#40 - 2013-06-05 23:24:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
Loan--Wolf wrote:
i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff


I really don't see a need for you to become a leader. There are other things that corporations can do aside from pew-pew.
Strike a deal with another corp, even a C1 wormhole has a lot to offer. And someone running one alone will be very welcome by some of the newer mining corps, e.g.. (knowledge transfer)

Make sure you screen for potential partners carefully. The market is the market. It will always change and sometimes what was profitable yesterday, ain't anymore the next month. There can be many reasons for it. Expansions being just one of them.

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