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A touch of motion sickness...?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#121 - 2013-06-05 15:29:40 UTC
Dullmeyr Prodomo wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We have some spare content sitting in our hangar, what would you like and Ill see if we have it.


Fixed it for you.

Else, not sure if just plain stupid. (you)


Well, what do you want?
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#122 - 2013-06-05 15:30:17 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Your name is appropriate.

9/10


Hey! I like that! +1 to you for your comment.


Brek Blood wrote:
Guttripper wrote:
While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.

Just a head's up.


If you have epilepsy, you've already been tested for photo-sensitivity. If you are prone to having photo-sensitive seizures, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.

Seizures are not triggered by motion sickness you twit.


This has nothing to do with Epilepsy and the warp gate effect. Man up ffs.


Alright, Doctor Hardcore Dumbass chiming in here. Now did I say I suffer from epilepsy in my post? Apparently the others that have posted their experiences here must be all whacked in the head because no, not one person got sick watching the new warp tunnel effect. And no, there are not other threads asking for any change to the animation. I guess I just wanted to boost my "likes received" and created this bogus thread.

Perhaps CCP will create a patch that with each exploded space ship, graphical images of burn, war, and other catastrophes' victims will be displayed on the screen with a small note stating, "Your handy work." I know I can look at that stuff without gaining a queasy stomach. I'll just have to be hard core like you and tell others to "Man up ffs."


Ranger - come on man... do you ever see anything ~negative~ from CCP? Nearly every reply from you is borderline "CCP can do no wrong!"

You trying to get a job there or something? Blink
Dullmeyr Prodomo
Gnartz
#123 - 2013-06-05 15:33:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Well, what do you want?

Well, i have to apologize obviously.

Faction Point would do it. Cool
Maxxis Viper
New Eden Light Point College
Fraternity.
#124 - 2013-06-05 15:36:40 UTC
Sometimes i do feel queezy but that is because im drunk
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#125 - 2013-06-05 15:39:05 UTC
Guttripper wrote:
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Your name is appropriate.

9/10


Hey! I like that! +1 to you for your comment.


Brek Blood wrote:
Guttripper wrote:
While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.

Just a head's up.


If you have epilepsy, you've already been tested for photo-sensitivity. If you are prone to having photo-sensitive seizures, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.

Seizures are not triggered by motion sickness you twit.


This has nothing to do with Epilepsy and the warp gate effect. Man up ffs.


Alright, Doctor Hardcore Dumbass chiming in here. Now did I say I suffer from epilepsy in my post? Apparently the others that have posted their experiences here must be all whacked in the head because no, not one person got sick watching the new warp tunnel effect. And no, there are not other threads asking for any change to the animation. I guess I just wanted to boost my "likes received" and created this bogus thread.

Perhaps CCP will create a patch that with each exploded space ship, graphical images of burn, war, and other catastrophes' victims will be displayed on the screen with a small note stating, "Your handy work." I know I can look at that stuff without gaining a queasy stomach. I'll just have to be hard core like you and tell others to "Man up ffs."


Ranger - come on man... do you ever see anything ~negative~ from CCP? Nearly every reply from you is borderline "CCP can do no wrong!"

You trying to get a job there or something? Blink

When I see something wrong, or that needs improvement, I say so.

When I see people over reacting to minor changes, I say so.

I prefer not to jump on the outrage bandwagon without good reason, even if that isn't the "popular" stance.

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Ben Vereton
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#126 - 2013-06-05 15:39:52 UTC
Personally I love the new jump animation and like the camera tracking thing, but then again I am very lucky to not suffer from motion sickness, like, ever, so I definitely want them to stay. That said, most of the people who oppose it are respectful and simply want an option to turn it off, instead of demanding its removal completely, so I support them. More options to please both "sides" is usually a good thing.
Spurty
#127 - 2013-06-05 15:41:04 UTC
Actually serious reply follows:

OP, please visit http://www.videogameseizures.org/ - might apply to you more than you want to acknowledge here.

Game is fine, you however might need to take measures if you really do feel sick and aren't just being a "It's new, I HATE IT" dingleberry.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#128 - 2013-06-05 15:41:37 UTC
Dullmeyr Prodomo wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Well, what do you want?

Well, i have to apologize obviously.

Faction Point would do it. Cool

Baltec, yes, please help the man out on this.

Lord knows he desperately needs a point of some sort, faction or otherwise. Smile

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#129 - 2013-06-05 15:46:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Motion sickness is caused when your inner ear is saying one thing and your eyes are saying another. If your ears detect motion but you're focusing on something static and unmoving (which is why people get sick reading in the car), or vice versa - eyes say everything's moving, ears are like "lol no", which is what causes motion sickness when playing games.

There are a few ways to deal with this. Problem one is that you're probably keeping your face too close to your monitor. If your TV or monitor fill your peripheral vision then that's a problem. You want your peripheral vision to not be detecting motion, ideally. sit back a bit. If you find this makes it difficult to see the screen, schedule an appointment with your optician - you may be short-sighted, or you may need stronger lenses if you already wear them. Sitting back will also help your posture and keep you from developing low back pain.

Another way around the sickness is to stimulate your inner ear with motion by moving your head. It doesn't actually need to match the motion on screen, so long as your head is moving. Look around you, maybe put a sports channel on TV and check the score occasionally, or keep a book nearby and read a sentence or two during warp. Look out the window, check out stuff on your second monitor, nod your head to your music. It doesn't matter what you do so long as you stimulate the inner ear with motion. If you have to, dock up and go get a glass of water or a cup of tea or something.

The reason you're getting sick is not because of the animation, it's because you're sitting unnaturally still. It's on you to resolve that, not on CCP.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#130 - 2013-06-05 15:47:38 UTC
I left EVE about a year ago after all the fuss about CQ and hoped, when I came back, that things would have settled down a bit.

Sadly it's not proved to be that way.

I get a whiff of CQ about this latest "feature". It's causing some people a lot of grief, me included, and so far most comments about the transition business seems to be pretty negative. What do we hear? "Get used to it." "You are whining about nothing." etc etc. Silence so far from CCP, though it IS early days yet so we'll see. But in the end I reckon CCP will have to save face, grudgingly admit that maybe it wasn't as optimum as they had hoped and row back a little just as they did with the CQ versus Hangar business.

Let's hope that they move a bit quicker this time as I can foresee a LOT of very annoyed customers actually saying that EVE makes them sick!Cry
Meytal
Doomheim
#131 - 2013-06-05 16:20:06 UTC
The new stargate transition animation is absolutely beautiful. I really do love it.

However, after a number of jumps, I do start to feel queasy. I don't have a bad case of motion sickness -- it is fairly mild -- but the camera movement of the new animation triggers it.

Please provide an option for us to have some other sort of (static?) transition between jumps. Like I said, it's not bad for me, and most likely I will be able to adjust to it over time. However I know others could be close to vomiting after the first transition.
Sister Sophia
Doomheim
#132 - 2013-06-05 16:23:43 UTC
Meytal wrote:
The new stargate transition animation is absolutely beautiful. I really do love it.

However, after a number of jumps, I do start to feel queasy. I don't have a bad case of motion sickness -- it is fairly mild -- but the camera movement of the new animation triggers it.

Please provide an option for us to have some other sort of (static?) transition between jumps. Like I said, it's not bad for me, and most likely I will be able to adjust to it over time. However I know others could be close to vomiting after the first transition.


My sentiments exactly.

+1
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2013-06-05 16:37:47 UTC
Even withotu the issue of motion sickness this jump thing is a HORRIBLE design by anyoen that understands on human iteraction with computers. Anythign that is repeatedly performed must have MINOR and subtle feedback on the screen otherwise it gets tiresome and will eventually start to give headache to a LOT of peopel that now are not still suffering from the sickness.


This is AGAIN another change clearly pushed by someone that does not play much eve at all. I really doubt 1 in 3 people will not get fedup with this when day after day they perform 70 jumps per hour during 4 hours of a day.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#134 - 2013-06-05 16:51:40 UTC
KInda agree with that.
And i hope people saying "press F10" at each jump are trolling/kidding.
Sometimes people doesnt complain just to complain.
Crexa
Ion Industrials
#135 - 2013-06-05 16:58:34 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.



Your arrogance is astounding. Some people do truly have issues and you blow it off as a "seen it before post".

"F=ma, so obviously they're putting mouths against arses to produce a force." "...its breakfast time and i am very hungry. may i have some of your paint chips?"

Litharan Schrell
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2013-06-05 17:12:16 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Even withotu the issue of motion sickness this jump thing is a HORRIBLE design by anyoen that understands on human iteraction with computers. Anythign that is repeatedly performed must have MINOR and subtle feedback on the screen otherwise it gets tiresome and will eventually start to give headache to a LOT of peopel that now are not still suffering from the sickness.


This is AGAIN another change clearly pushed by someone that does not play much eve at all. I really doubt 1 in 3 people will not get fedup with this when day after day they perform 70 jumps per hour during 4 hours of a day.


Now this guy, this guy knows it.

+1
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#137 - 2013-06-05 17:15:36 UTC
Re: Stitcher...

Watching the animation, I think _my_ problem might be it is not very fluid like the warp drive animation. Perhaps my computer or CCP needs to work a bit more on the system change, but how I see the effect:

Fire down the gate into the vortex.
Slight pause (system change).
Continue the vortex.
Pause.
Lightning flash.
Stuttering vortex.
Vortex vanishes and new systems' items are a distance.
Abruptly stop and in gate cloak mode.

If my mind was not attempting to fill in the missing blanks, then I might not get the occasional headache.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-06-05 17:17:55 UTC
I can see how that would suck, yeah. I'm running on a pretty good machine and if anything the jump effect is one of the smoother things I see.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#139 - 2013-06-05 20:42:00 UTC
Crexa wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.



Your arrogance is astounding. Some people do truly have issues and you blow it off as a "seen it before post".

That would be because I have... many, many times. Blink

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Brek Blood
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#140 - 2013-06-06 03:16:34 UTC
The QQ'rs

If roller coasters make you sick, do you petition the company to make them easier to handle?