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what am i doing wrong solo roam?
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Hieren Andven
Liberated Planet Development
#41 - 2013-06-05 12:33:26 UTC
Well... going by my experience, you will have much success if you start mining in low-sec in a procurer.

So far, this week I've had two people suicide into my drones while trying to attack my 60k tank procurer...
Voi Lutois
Vonkell
#42 - 2013-06-05 16:12:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Voi Lutois
Jibin Hok wrote:
The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.


Okay so solo pvp isn't dead as long as you are in a t1 frigate or dessy, great. Doesn't flying the same **** you have been flying since your first week in the game get old? I know it has for me. I would love to still be able to roam around lowsec in a domi or mega or even a astarte or something again and fight small gangs or other solo dudes but it just doesn't work like that anymore and chances are no gudfights will be had and you will just be pissing your isk away dying 20v1 to a bunch of t1 frigs, dessys, and ec300s.

This game gives me diarrhea.
Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#43 - 2013-06-05 16:16:27 UTC
move to 0.0, no rules!
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#44 - 2013-06-05 16:38:48 UTC
Voi Lutois wrote:
Jibin Hok wrote:
The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.


Okay so solo pvp isn't dead as long as you are in a t1 frigate or dessy, great. Doesn't flying the same **** you have been flying since your first week in the game get old? I know it has for me. I would love to still be able to roam around lowsec in a domi or mega or even a astarte or something again and fight small gangs or other solo dudes but it just doesn't work like that anymore and chances are no gudfights will be had and you will just be pissing your isk away dying 20v1 to a bunch of t1 frigs, dessys, and ec300s.

This game gives me diarrhea.


This game isn't wow

You don't progress from frig to battleship like going from lvl 1-60.

And you can roam in a BS, its just hard and a bit based around luck.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-06-06 00:19:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Squatdog wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets


So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?

I see.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#46 - 2013-06-06 03:41:52 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets


So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?

I see.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.


It doesn't actually work like that though.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Herr Dengler
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2013-06-24 02:24:19 UTC
Jibin Hok wrote:
The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.


True, mate - true. Solo is alive. Faction Warfare space is the place to get a good fight within 15 mins.
Raptors Mole
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-06-24 19:04:28 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets


So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?

I see.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.


I'd rather kill 1 lion in a straight fight than hunt 1000 rabbits.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#49 - 2013-06-24 19:29:52 UTC
STFU you're terrible and you know it.

Infinity Ziona wrote:

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.

nom nom
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-06-24 19:36:06 UTC
Raptors Mole wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets


So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?

I see.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.


I'd rather kill 1 lion in a straight fight than hunt 1000 rabbits.

Do what floats your boat I guess. Finding a lion thats willing to straight fight you without dropping a whole pride on top of you is gonna be tough though.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#51 - 2013-06-25 11:40:58 UTC
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Its normal. Low sec just isnt that heavily populated in most places other than on high sec to low sec entry gates. Then it is often too populated for solo pvp. If you want to roam solo prepare to spend a long time looking for targets. There are some. They are just few and far between.

If you are looking for solo ratters/miners you might be better heading up to a sov holding null sec alliances space. The farther from high sec the more likely you will find people out in space doing things alone. You can also engage people on gates with no consequences.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#52 - 2013-06-25 16:55:23 UTC
Disastro wrote:
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


In addition to the plexes mentioned above you should also probably look for folks doing things in belts such as ratting or mining or in scannable anomolies (those sites you can scan without probes with your on board scanner). Realistically you wont find folks doing things like this in every system or even in most systems but if you are roaming around sooner or later you will find someone out in space who is probably in one of these. This is where you might find something expensive and shiny which you can kill with something small and cheap. Someone who is ratting or running an anom might already be tanking a bunch of npc rats when you land on them and your frigate damage might be enough to put them over the edge. Or perhaps you can hold them long enough for friends to arrive. Either way results in happiness for you and tears for them.



Do the npcs start shooting the pirates now? I have a very high amarr standing and still noticed the amarr npcs stop shooting the minmatar mission runner and start shooting me when I enter fw missions. I'm not sure if this is just fw or all rats.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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