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50k Unallocated SP from this past weekends interruptions.

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Octoven
Stellar Production
#21 - 2013-06-04 14:21:21 UTC
We mustn't forget the extra 4-5 mil SP we got for free from split skills P
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-06-04 14:22:29 UTC
That 50,000 was enough for my main to hit my first 50mil SP. Yay milestones!
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-06-04 14:23:28 UTC
Octoven wrote:
We mustn't forget the extra 4-5 mil SP we got for free from split skills P

Oh right, forgot about that.
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2013-06-04 16:35:23 UTC
News about this for more info.

Don't spend it all in one place! Unless you consider the skill queue a place...then I guess you can spend it all in one place.

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Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#25 - 2013-06-04 16:47:12 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
News about this for more info.

Don't spend it all in one place! Unless you consider the skill queue a place...then I guess you can spend it all in one place.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2013-06-04 16:51:02 UTC
Dear CCP.

As much as I like free SP, I think awarding compensatory SP for downtime resulting from a DDOS attack is a bad idea.

I have seen in this game an almost aspergian level "one upmanship" and for that I would not put it past some people to get the idea that they can carry out DDOS attacks more often as a means of getting more free SP.

Free SP allocated and in reserve can be a weapon you see. Having it on-hand for a situation can allow a player to adapt at the click of a button.

When a few DP or percentage of tanking is what makes the difference, it becomes an "I win" button.

For some people, if that means a KM or in the last throes of a battle, NOT being the loss, I have no doubt they will be motivated to carry out DDOS attacks to add this I WIN button to their arsenal.


If you are going to make a habit of awarding SP after DDOS attacks, please, for the sake of not having more in the future, put in a delay to the application of said SP, like a 24 hour lag between the initiation of application and the application of the effect. This would "de-weaponize" unallocated SP and hence remove the incentive to DDOS the server.


Thank you.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Lennay Kekua
Dead and Delirious
BBQ BOIS
#27 - 2013-06-05 14:33:50 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dear CCP.

As much as I like free SP, I think awarding compensatory SP for downtime resulting from a DDOS attack is a bad idea.

I have seen in this game an almost aspergian level "one upmanship" and for that I would not put it past some people to get the idea that they can carry out DDOS attacks more often as a means of getting more free SP.

Free SP allocated and in reserve can be a weapon you see. Having it on-hand for a situation can allow a player to adapt at the click of a button.

When a few DP or percentage of tanking is what makes the difference, it becomes an "I win" button.

For some people, if that means a KM or in the last throes of a battle, NOT being the loss, I have no doubt they will be motivated to carry out DDOS attacks to add this I WIN button to their arsenal.


If you are going to make a habit of awarding SP after DDOS attacks, please, for the sake of not having more in the future, put in a delay to the application of said SP, like a 24 hour lag between the initiation of application and the application of the effect. This would "de-weaponize" unallocated SP and hence remove the incentive to DDOS the server.


Thank you.


I'm pretty sure a majority of EVE players would refrain from this activity because, you know, it is a criminal activity. We are not talking about a EULA violation here. A DDOS attack is serious business. Far more serious business than internet spaceships.
Lennay Kekua
Dead and Delirious
BBQ BOIS
#28 - 2013-06-05 14:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Lennay Kekua
Will you honor petitions to transfer the SP to a character on the account that is not the highest SP character?
Rune Ainur
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-06-05 14:37:02 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dear CCP.

As much as I like free SP, I think awarding compensatory SP for downtime resulting from a DDOS attack is a bad idea.

I have seen in this game an almost aspergian level "one upmanship" and for that I would not put it past some people to get the idea that they can carry out DDOS attacks more often as a means of getting more free SP.

Free SP allocated and in reserve can be a weapon you see. Having it on-hand for a situation can allow a player to adapt at the click of a button.

When a few DP or percentage of tanking is what makes the difference, it becomes an "I win" button.

For some people, if that means a KM or in the last throes of a battle, NOT being the loss, I have no doubt they will be motivated to carry out DDOS attacks to add this I WIN button to their arsenal.


If you are going to make a habit of awarding SP after DDOS attacks, please, for the sake of not having more in the future, put in a delay to the application of said SP, like a 24 hour lag between the initiation of application and the application of the effect. This would "de-weaponize" unallocated SP and hence remove the incentive to DDOS the server.


Thank you.


It's already been decided that 50k SP is too low a bonus to entice DDoSers to do it for skill point compensation.

Carry on.
GM Lelouch
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
#30 - 2013-06-05 15:11:43 UTC
Lennay Kekua wrote:
Will you honor petitions to transfer the SP to a character on the account that is not the highest SP character?


Yes, we will honor such requests and reallocate the SP to a character on the same account as long as the skillpoints have not been spent already. I'm afraid we can't reallocate the 50k SP to characters on other accounts, nor will we be able to move it over to a character on the same account if the SP has already been spent.

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Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-06-05 15:15:31 UTC
the compensation was for those of us who couldnt actually play, because they took the server offline. when people say it wasnt ccp's fault blah blah blah. ccp did take the servers offline. that was thier choice. and for that they compensated us. i fell it was too low it should have been around 100k. but meh better then nothing.

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Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-06-05 15:16:59 UTC
Lennay Kekua wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dear CCP.

As much as I like free SP, I think awarding compensatory SP for downtime resulting from a DDOS attack is a bad idea.

I have seen in this game an almost aspergian level "one upmanship" and for that I would not put it past some people to get the idea that they can carry out DDOS attacks more often as a means of getting more free SP.

Free SP allocated and in reserve can be a weapon you see. Having it on-hand for a situation can allow a player to adapt at the click of a button.

When a few DP or percentage of tanking is what makes the difference, it becomes an "I win" button.

For some people, if that means a KM or in the last throes of a battle, NOT being the loss, I have no doubt they will be motivated to carry out DDOS attacks to add this I WIN button to their arsenal.


If you are going to make a habit of awarding SP after DDOS attacks, please, for the sake of not having more in the future, put in a delay to the application of said SP, like a 24 hour lag between the initiation of application and the application of the effect. This would "de-weaponize" unallocated SP and hence remove the incentive to DDOS the server.


Thank you.


I'm pretty sure a majority of EVE players would refrain from this activity because, you know, it is a criminal activity. We are not talking about a EULA violation here. A DDOS attack is serious business. Far more serious business than internet spaceships.



lolz use a vpn or two or three, and they woulnt come close to catching you.

http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#33 - 2013-06-05 17:20:43 UTC
Capt Tenguru10 wrote:
Lennay Kekua wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Dear CCP.

As much as I like free SP, I think awarding compensatory SP for downtime resulting from a DDOS attack is a bad idea.

I have seen in this game an almost aspergian level "one upmanship" and for that I would not put it past some people to get the idea that they can carry out DDOS attacks more often as a means of getting more free SP.

Free SP allocated and in reserve can be a weapon you see. Having it on-hand for a situation can allow a player to adapt at the click of a button.

When a few DP or percentage of tanking is what makes the difference, it becomes an "I win" button.

For some people, if that means a KM or in the last throes of a battle, NOT being the loss, I have no doubt they will be motivated to carry out DDOS attacks to add this I WIN button to their arsenal.


If you are going to make a habit of awarding SP after DDOS attacks, please, for the sake of not having more in the future, put in a delay to the application of said SP, like a 24 hour lag between the initiation of application and the application of the effect. This would "de-weaponize" unallocated SP and hence remove the incentive to DDOS the server.


Thank you.


I'm pretty sure a majority of EVE players would refrain from this activity because, you know, it is a criminal activity. We are not talking about a EULA violation here. A DDOS attack is serious business. Far more serious business than internet spaceships.



lolz use a vpn or two or three, and they woulnt come close to catching you.




I have seen step-by-step guides that a monkey can follow for DDOS and covering ones tracks. Won't post it here though, but the information is out there.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nytak
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-06-05 17:22:46 UTC
Hmm.. I checked on both my characters last night and didn't notice an SP reimbursement. Guess I'll check again when I get home.
Luscius Uta
#35 - 2013-06-06 06:49:35 UTC
Nytak wrote:
Hmm.. I checked on both my characters last night and didn't notice an SP reimbursement. Guess I'll check again when I get home.



I received no SP either, but then my account was inactive when Tranquility went down. While I realise that only active accounts were supposed to get SP, but then, I had no way to extend my subscription with both server and the Account management website being down.

Workarounds are not bugfixes.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-06-06 06:52:03 UTC
Mulani Askiras wrote:
All 'mains' were allocated 50k sp it looks like, cross verified across all my accounts.


lol, I got 100k xD

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Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#37 - 2013-06-06 07:10:29 UTC
I got the first 50k but not the second. And I've definitely not dropped subscription....

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-06-06 07:30:30 UTC
So i get 50.000 skillpoints when someone tries to hack the server!?... is this some kind of incentive?, are you trying to get me to break the law!?

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
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