EVE General Discussion

The only thing wrong here is that you need to talk to a counselor about your anger management issues.

I did three hours of exploration yesterday with my corpmate. Farming lowsec-data and relic-sites seems to be the new buddy-activity. We liked it, even if our profit was not that big. Next time we will find a faction POS bpc! and if we don't, we can still blow stuff up.

I'm in a cov ops with hacking modules and rigs, my mate flew a cov ops with scanning equipment and rigs. Worked really good.

Also he can watch D-Scan while i am hacking the containers.

Next time put it on youtube..... we want to laugh at raging nerds too

I have read the guides on the best method to do hacking. The general consensus is explore as many nodes as you can, killing only Regenerative and Suppressor nodes, ignoring all others until you have no other option left. I have tried this in multiple sites, with hacking 4, and a covops frigate. To put it into perspective, with hacking 4 I have never found a can I couldn't open. Now, I'm lucky to get 2/5 cans in a site. On top of that, the loot I get in return for spending 45 minutes smashing my head against my keyboard hoping I find the core, has amounted to about 15m/site on average. Before I averaged somewhere around 50-100m/site. This is with two accounts looting the cans that pop out (another completely half ass mechanic), running nullsec sites.

Regenerative nodes are too common. Virus suppressors are too common. Defensive nodes in general are too common. I understand that hacking 5 will give a significant boost to your results. However it should not be a requirement to get any meaningful results. This just creates a giant barrier to entry. That's 26 days spent training (just to get hacking and archaeology from 4 to 5). Even in the sites where I *have* managed to open every can, the loot was laughable. I'm also aware you get two tries for each can. I have been doing this, and my results include that.

This is unacceptable. With two accounts, I still can't get every can that pops out. I cannot open every can. On top of that, the loot I get is simply terrible.

To the OP: Ignore the forum trolls. They're just trying to derail the thread. The best way to deal with a troll is to ignore them. Their mommy will put them in time out sooner or later.

I have been just running around with hacking 4 doing exploration for the last few months...


suffice to say Hacking 5 is now at the top of my skillplan. They added a reason to train hacking to 5 and use a t2 module...I really don't see that as a problem.

because they are eve online veterans.


you could have read the text in the time you were typing that ...

5 year veteran here.

if i had to pick out of all the highlight features for odessey i'd keep the ship changes and the new probe scanner and throw the rest back in the garbage bin.

Highsec data and relic site loot it utterly worthless ( i can get better income from highsec missioning running level 2 missions ) and there's absolutely zero chance i would bother doing those in lowsec.

I don't understand how you guys think that's a wall of text.

Seriously, stop thinking your phone is a source of education.

Even ratting in 0.7 Asteroid belts gets you more isk then from hisec data sites xD

Im not an veteran, but this new clickfest (minigame) and the loot scattering and the loot table is something #&$++*

I can deal with the mini game, it's a bit of fun and hopefully may get an iteration or two to tweak it as time goes on. But the loot scatter is ridiculous, it must be some kind of sick joke. Not to mention the loot value, I'm yet to find a single site that pays anywhere near what the pre-odessey sites paid, again this needs a lot of work to balance out the risk v reward as if I'm exposed for long enough to complete the mini game I'd expect some measurable reward, at the moment it'll take a lot of sites to replace a covops.