EVE General Discussion

"Prison system" implies that the culture around these parts is inherently negative - I have pointed out that the culture welcomes players who have a positive attitude towards learning and the failure that comes with it, players do not have the overweening sense of entitlement that many like yourself and others share. Players, in other words, who behave like adults.

...As compared to your own knee - jerk reaction to disparage the game and its players based off your own enlightened assumptions of botting, online numbers during an offpeak period, and blanket statements denigrating the EVE community as sociopaths with convict mentalities.

You've illustrated beautifully the point how more players does not necessarily equate to a better gaming experience.

So yes, attitude problems on your part, and those like yourself. The game - and its base community - are doing fine.

So because the processed parts are sold in highsec..........which just means a JF hauled it from null/whatever means it doesnt come from w-space or null?

You are one hell of a troll.

I'm not a "Bitter vet", Sevastian. I'm a gamer who plays many games gazing into the EvE culture and mechanics.

It's not the norm to say the least.

And the term "prison system" refers to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfNs1pqG0

It's doesn't look pretty, because it isn't.

EvE is what it is, warts and all.

EVE has taught me to enjoy the salty-sweetness of tears.

o7

GL RL, maybe you'll come back in a couple months or years, doesn't matter really. Cya

Q: Why are there so many more people in high sec vs Null or low
A: You can't make money anywhere except in high sec

This is completely false. But in nullsec you also need to pay. Greed is mostly completely different of risk. Ofc, noone will let you make isk in null, and not fight or pay for your place. Might be a sin for you, but do you give out free ships? Because if you don't, it's a sin for us.
There's just 2 kinds of Indy people. The first one is the majority, wich think they are some God-given players, and they get stuck in hisec because noone wants them to hang out and do nothing for a comunity. There's also the second kind, more smart and game-willing, wich understand that leaving hisec means entering a comunity. They do well, get rich, and don't die trying.

Q: Why do Vets leave Eve?
A: It becomes a job
Vets do leave EvE, but this reason is mostly false. Think twice. Speak once. You will look less noobish.

What has Eve taught you?
It tought me that butthurt can reach unexpected levels. Greed too.

Anyway. What you do is complain you don't get all too easy isk. A normal person would not be butthurt about this. Grow up.
And nope, i don't want your stuff.

Dear OP,

If something happened in game that caused you to deciding to leave the game, then sorry but no sympathy for you as the argument points you've provided are pretty weak and really very subjective to one's own perspective.

If something happened in RL and you need to leave the game, I don't see why holding grudge about particular game mechanics or culture because they should be irrelevant to your RL.

If you are posting this just because you are now in a position undecided whether RL or Eve Life to take precedence, then mate, it's really sad.

This is only a game, as much as it also did bloody well in certain areas simulating real world models, people play it (and any game for that matter) supposedly to enjoy, relax, feel good ... etc.

some changes at times, you may not like...
some ppl you met at times, you may not like...
somethings in RL at times, are more important and you must attend to...

but none of the above one should just simply throw at the game as if blaming it's the game's fault. In any MMO, you inevitably came across people who made up the community, just like RL in the cruel world, you are part of what made up that community and there's no escaping the fact.

Running away from something that you dislike in a game is easy but trying to do the same in real world, I'm pretty sure you'd have little to no luck succeeding.

P.S. If you ever feel like a game is a 2nd Job or Life, you should never have continued playing it.

Commie!

Feel I need to clarify why I made this post and why I feel it is important to the community that is and will be.


Many posts deal with the issues surrounding the imbalance of the sectors in Eve. The simple reason is the one I put forward but ofc as with all generalizations, it fails with detail. Many of the forum trolls have picked this up and made the thread into a negative rather than the intended positive.

I would like to inform all of those that are entering the game that you will meet an amazing collection of people and you will experience a rich vibrant diversity of player interaction - but there will be grind .. and the grind will annoy you after a while. I don't believe there is a difference between the grind of making carriers to the grind of defending your space - it is still a situation that loses its appeal when you realise that the needs of the situation outweigh the amount of time you wish to give to it.

One instance which is both exciting and annoyingly necessary is in the requirement of getting stuff from one sector to another. Whether it is ships or mins - you cannot sell your goods in any sort of reasonable quantity unless you make it accessible to the general public. These people are in high-sec and could be termed risk averse, but are following the well known and wise statement - Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.


Once you have been in the game and done most that the game can offer - why stay? CCPs own figures show that as soon as a character has built/owned a titan - then there is nothing more that tops that and they leave. Personal experience has also shown that the amount of time they spend in the game to achieve that goal is also a contributing factor. Many friends I had in the game have left due to time issues between game and relationships. Something to watch out for and address sooner rather than later.

That is it - thought it would be a nice idea to start up a constructive thread on GD on what I have learnt and hoped that a few other vets would have contributed positively. There is always hope...

You analysis is a little hyperbolic, but yeah, it is a major balance issue. The CSM is aware of it. CCP is aware of it. It's being discussed and worked on.

Please don't leave, because we need people to contribute to the discussion and players who will want to live in null when there's something to do other than smoosh red pluses.