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removal of strategic cruisers from 3/10 and 4/10 sites
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Copper Rei
Copper Corp
Aggressively Passive Bears
#1 - 2013-06-04 23:58:18 UTC
why? this change makes no sense to me. I trained to fly a scanning frig...found I needed to also be able to run the sites if I wanted to make anything out of the sites I found.....so I trained to skill everything I needed for exploration to lvl V and then I trained combat to be able to fly decent cruisers...this didn't work as well as the frig due to loss of scan bonuses....so the long awaited t3 which offered scan bonus options........I trained to cruiser V and weapons and all subsystems so I could fly a decent cruiser with scan bonus comparable to my frig........
I just found a good fit that holds all my gear for scanning....analyzer, salvager, codebreaker, and launcher as well as having weapons enough to run the site so I didn't have to fly a second account and tag along another toon while dual boxing and all that..........
I finially get there and you block my access to every known site in h-sec.

I am a 3+ year pilot with no ability to PVP and I enjoy solo exploration.

I found a game I could play and have fun and I have tried damn near every aspect of the game.

This move to eliminate the t3 from the only available sites in h-sec SUCKS MY ASS.

I have never been so pissed.

I am forced into l-sec. and ALL my training is out the window.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#2 - 2013-06-04 23:59:13 UTC
Quiet simply T3s were too OP for those sites

The Drake is a Lie
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#3 - 2013-06-04 23:59:59 UTC
They felt that 3/10 and 4/10s where for newbies and not for vets. Get use to it, it seems to be their new direction.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Haulin Gneiss
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-06-05 00:09:13 UTC
Copper Rei wrote:
why? this change makes no sense to me. I trained to fly a scanning frig...found I needed to also be able to run the sites if I wanted to make anything out of the sites I found.....so I trained to skill everything I needed for exploration to lvl V and then I trained combat to be able to fly decent cruisers...this didn't work as well as the frig due to loss of scan bonuses....so the long awaited t3 which offered scan bonus options........I trained to cruiser V and weapons and all subsystems so I could fly a decent cruiser with scan bonus comparable to my frig........
I just found a good fit that holds all my gear for scanning....analyzer, salvager, codebreaker, and launcher as well as having weapons enough to run the site so I didn't have to fly a second account and tag along another toon while dual boxing and all that..........
I finially get there and you block my access to every known site in h-sec.

I am a 3+ year pilot with no ability to PVP and I enjoy solo exploration.

I found a game I could play and have fun and I have tried damn near every aspect of the game.

This move to eliminate the t3 from the only available sites in h-sec SUCKS MY ASS.

I have never been so pissed.

I am forced into l-sec. and ALL my training is out the window.



Never mind this is supposed to be a 'sandbox". There are a lot of us in the same boat. just get a nice worm and live with that. gone are the days when CCP gives content for experienced players. They takin all our toys and giving them to the noobs or low sec.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-05 00:14:11 UTC
I agree. It's no longer a player driven universe.





DMC

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Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-05 00:20:32 UTC
Check my sig for confirmation

http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
kilteroff
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-05 00:21:16 UTC
Yeesh... I missed this in the blogs apparently, I'm a semi-sad panda now. I'd planned on doing all my work in null anyway but..... good to know I guess. :T
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-05 00:23:31 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
They takin all our toys and giving them to the noobs or low sec.

This can only be a good thing. Death to high-sec.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#9 - 2013-06-05 00:23:54 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I agree. It's no longer a player driven universe.





DMC



Of course it's not when the thing we're discussing here is PVE

PVE has never been player driven last I checked.

The only close exception being live events such as the sansha raids....but those were hosted by CCP soooo.....

The Drake is a Lie
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#10 - 2013-06-05 00:37:23 UTC
The perfect irony is with the changes to exploration I no longer need a salvager on my Tengu exploration ship and can fit another missle launcher. Would have loved that for running 4/10's. :)

Time to put the T3 on the shelf for hi sec exploration. Gives me more flexibility for what I put in my alts Orca hangar, so I have that going for me now....
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#11 - 2013-06-05 09:00:52 UTC
T3 were total overkill for those sites. Most T3's didn't even run them, they just followed the triggers to make the good lootsies spawn ASAP and GTFO. I never understood why anyone capable of flying a T3 would stick around in hisec to run these sites anyway. Take your run-of-the-mill MMO and imagine a max-level character grinding mobs in the tutorial area in hopes for a rare spawn. That is what you have been doing, that is what has been taken away from you. And you cry like this? HTFU...
voetius
Grundrisse
#12 - 2013-06-05 09:11:56 UTC

people will just switch to using Gila and Ishtar, I guess the only issue there is that they may need to train some skills to use them.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-06-05 09:35:05 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
T3 were total overkill for those sites. Most T3's didn't even run them, they just followed the triggers to make the good lootsies spawn ASAP and GTFO. I never understood why anyone capable of flying a T3 would stick around in hisec to run these sites anyway. Take your run-of-the-mill MMO and imagine a max-level character grinding mobs in the tutorial area in hopes for a rare spawn. That is what you have been doing, that is what has been taken away from you. And you cry like this? HTFU...

You can still do all that with the ships the sites allow. Nothing has changed in that regard.
Lexmana
#14 - 2013-06-05 09:37:05 UTC
try to leave highsec and there is still plenty of content for your T3.
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#15 - 2013-06-05 09:38:11 UTC
voetius wrote:

people will just switch to using Gila and Ishtar, I guess the only issue there is that they may need to train some skills to use them.

If you can fly a Tengu you can fly a Gila, same with Proteus and Ishtar.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-06-05 09:42:50 UTC
Durzel wrote:
voetius wrote:

people will just switch to using Gila and Ishtar, I guess the only issue there is that they may need to train some skills to use them.

If you can fly a Tengu you can fly a Gila, same with Proteus and Ishtar.

Cerberus propably makes for a nice alternative for tengu users too, since it's another missile spewing ship with an extra utility high.
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-06-05 09:44:03 UTC
You are not forced to do anything but to adapt.
Julius Priscus
#18 - 2013-06-05 09:45:56 UTC
do what we used to do before there was t3 ships..

use hacs ,

if ya don't like it... gimmie ya stuff, and transfer ya character/s to one of my accounts.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-06-05 09:54:46 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
T3 were total overkill for those sites. Most T3's didn't even run them, they just followed the triggers to make the good lootsies spawn ASAP and GTFO. I never understood why anyone capable of flying a T3 would stick around in hisec to run these sites anyway. Take your run-of-the-mill MMO and imagine a max-level character grinding mobs in the tutorial area in hopes for a rare spawn. That is what you have been doing, that is what has been taken away from you. And you cry like this? HTFU...



Well one of my toons with but a Moa, stumbled on a rare 3/10 spawn. Flew away with a low-slave implant worth more than the ship with everything in it.

But a T3 for that is an overkill. A Moa without even really good skills can take a rare 3/10 spawn out and the associated waves.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-06-05 10:04:26 UTC
Player driven event for PVE... lol
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