Missions & Complexes

Just a completely idiotic decision.
I used to do exploration in a Proteus, but that is now junk starting tomorrow.

Allthough im using T3s i consider the change questionable. Not because of the remove from the trigger sites, but because it lowers the use of the T3s for explorers. In one way thats good, on the flipside it has some negative issues. Next step will be to remove T2s from the sites as those are quite more powerful and because of the low requirements to find those sites they will now be much more frequently blitzed.

I used the T3 mostly because it combined several boni i did not have in T2 cruisers. I often also used a T2 cruiser combo while i could have used the T3s also. But in fact for lowsec T3s only were comfortable for hacking and acheology while the firepower of T2s were much more reliable in the combat sites. As i have all advanced cruisers maxed out this doesnt bother me much at all.

Less blitzing beginner explorers means possibly more expeditions and many more escalations with more phat loot - i hope that calculation comes true, if not, the change doesnt impact me at all. Maybe more locust-style with hisec carrier and less danger in combat sites in low sec when with battle hardened T2 firepower for engaging mouthbreathers.

I find it more concerning that it is now very easy to gain security status. Too easy, too few effort - i think they should remove all possibilities to gain faction on a pirating toon. Once a pirate, always a pirate. If they quit, the better and more safe for the rest. No one needs them.

keenky, stuff needs to blow up. the game doesn't function if stuff doesn't blow up. Being able to choose how to grind sec status is a good thing imo, some people enjoy grinding other things or other ways.

Pirate activiity and fleet combat are necessities of the game. Also the game is horribly bland if people can't roleplay pirates or tyrants or thieves or whatever, and typing arr me hearties into local doesn't count, things in fact do have to get shot and explode.

I agree, deds in lowsec should let T3s in, but in my career, I've done more ded 5s (those are always lowsec) than I have ded 4s in lowsec. Its just not the same as lapping the entirety of the caldari highsec empire looking for GSOs. ie I don't roam as far (because lowsec is topographically a fringe and mostly fairly thin), and I don't see 10 different blow ins who probe in a system one day, and then are not seen again for a month. The fact that probers are more regional, means its more reasonable to expect them to have stashed nearby the necessary hull class to be able to enter a particular ded. I certainly do.

I do it with 2 Chars in lowsec with a cheap T1 ship.
Once i called two other corp mates for backup in T1 frigs!

So .. 4 chars in total. How is that not possible for a small corp?

And how does this update favor larger corps?

Well they did buff the drops from the new profession sites, to make up for solo players not being able to grab everything. I would be more concerned that you can now apparently do those sites in nullsec in a cheap frigate. Maybe we will see the outcome of this in a few weeks when faction towers cost 10 M isk or so ...

They removed the need to fit expanded launchers to highsec PVE boats (making the exploration fit easier for low cpu hacs), they also added a module which does the scan bonusing, and highsec is littered with stations if it turns out you are too personally useless to run the easily cheesed by range ded 4s without refitting.

I could list one of the dozens of non t3 ships you could use to accomplish the same task, but that would reward your tears with something other than the scorn they rightfully deserve.

Spare the sod, spoil the man-child.

Edit: But hey, thanks for taking the time to read so many of my posts. :feelsgoodman:

Does this even matter? I mean, I'm pretty new to Eve, but I don't see the big deal. The only thing that steered me towards a skill plan to make use of T3 cruisers (I can't use them yet) was the fact that they were able to easily fit an Expanded Probe Launcher to cherry pick 4/10s. With DSPs gone, there are plenty of other ships that will clear the site just as quickly.

Honestly, the change seems kind of redundant to me, except to push high sec explorers into a wider variety of equally (or close enough) capable ships for the task.

During one of those pre-Odyssey live chats last week, CCP Fozzie said that tech 3's were too efficient at completing those sites, hence the decision to ban them from entering. Obviously, this 'too efficient' argument is the silliest thing he could have pulled out of the bag since it can be applied to a vast array of situations in which a ship which is designed for a specific purpose is (the most) efficient at doing it. Why not prohibit carriers from acting as logi for sub-cap boats since they are too efficient at that in comparison to a dedicated t2 logi for example?

So, while realistically tech3's were a bit too much to take into most of those sites, they were an option available to every single player interested in exploration. The 'problem' (if there was one to start with) was cherry picking sites, which could have been dealt with in various other ways.

Looking at the recent changes I feel as if CCP don't really care much for people trying their hand at lowsec explo and industry.
They removed static ded 1 and 2s (which was a good thing) but also removed 1 and 2 spawns in general from lowsec without providing replacement content. They turned grav belts into anomalies instead of sigs rendering lowsec mining pretty much impossible for any practical purpose. They only partially introduced some of the announced buffs to industry in fw space (Pos fuel bonues according to upgrade status, anyone?). And now this change which influences lowsec explorers more then their hisec counterparts, and which happened due to hisec whining (so nothing to do with lowsec).

Best part of all - this change was never discussed on forums (not that it would change anything) as all attempts to get some feedback from devs were pretty much ignored.

I don't care for hisec tbh.