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Enjoy Odyssey so far?
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#21 - 2013-06-04 22:33:33 UTC
The best thing about Odyssey so far, is people getting upset that MintChip was hired. Poor girl just trying to get a check.

Though why she got CCP MintChip and Kil2 couldn't get CCP Kil2 is beyond me. Sexist.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
maliice
Conforce
#22 - 2013-06-04 22:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: maliice
So many unneeded changes. Who are these UI designers? They are amateur, who in their right mind allows this stuff to pass? Why would you change something such as the undock button that has been in the same spot for over 10 years and put it in the top right? Really? Bunch of flipping nutballs. CCP should hire me, but Im betting they couldnt afford me. The jump transition totally not needed.

Scanning is a joke I dont want to go down that route.

I know CCP spends a lot of time and hard work as well as money into these changes.. But please take a minute step back and look at what you are doing.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#23 - 2013-06-04 22:40:59 UTC
Sea of tears...

I think it's great. The radial menus are awesome, I like the way the camera works now, and I like the new graphics. I haven't messed with exploration yet but I'm looking forward to it... it looks cool.

Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#24 - 2013-06-04 22:45:42 UTC
Love all of it thus far :D

The Drake is a Lie
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#25 - 2013-06-04 22:46:08 UTC
radial menu is cool, well, scanning and lootpuke is .. meh.
Xeraphi
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-06-04 22:48:05 UTC
Well, training on my main is paused as due to the blinky new target death animation I can't play the game anymore without feeling like someone's stabbing glass shards into my eyeballs. Since it's pretty much impossible for me to look at the screen anymore in pve or pvp combat, I'm stuck mining for a plex again in order to mine for next month's plex. I may have to quit eve completely until this is fixed because I had enough of mining two months ago.

New target lock death animation problem #1 ^ eye strain and pain Temporary workaround found to one of these.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#27 - 2013-06-04 22:48:07 UTC
maliice wrote:
So many unneeded changes. Who are these UI designers? They are amateur, who in their right mind allows this stuff to pass? Why would you change something such as the undock button that has been in the same spot for over 10 years and put it in the top right? Really? Bunch of flipping nutballs. CCP should hire me, but Im betting they couldnt afford me. The jump transition totally not needed.

Scanning is a joke I dont want to go down that route.

I know CCP spends a lot of time and hard work as well as money into these changes.. But please take a minute step back and look at what you are doing.


Seeing as how dev liked this post I think I was pretty well spot on with this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3143204#post3143204

The Drake is a Lie
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#28 - 2013-06-04 22:55:39 UTC
Data site. Loot on scanner - 1.5m ISK. meh. Loot in cargohold - 9k. meeeeeeeeeeeeh Sad.

Mining is screwed.
Exploration is screwed.
Plex running Tengu is screwed.
Gravimetrics are screwed.
Ice is screwed.
Data sites are screwed.
Yet to find a single relic site.
My ships are nerfed.
Not interested in new ones.
Not interested in eye candy.
New death animation is annoying.

So far, it's Zerodyssey. Do not want. 0/10.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#29 - 2013-06-04 22:57:00 UTC
Xeraphi wrote:
Well, training on my main is paused as due to the blinky new target death animation I can't play the game anymore without feeling like someone's stabbing glass shards into my eyeballs. Since it's pretty much impossible for me to look at the screen anymore in pve or pvp combat, I'm stuck mining for a plex again in order to mine for next month's plex. I may have to quit eve completely until this is fixed because I had enough of mining two months ago.


An icon blinking is doing that to you? You might wanna get that checked out....

The Drake is a Lie
maliice
Conforce
#30 - 2013-06-04 22:59:35 UTC  |  Edited by: maliice
Xercodo wrote:
Seeing as how dev liked this post I think I was pretty well spot on with this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3143204#post3143204


Thats all cool and everything, I see the concept, but terrible execution. They went for the easy way out. Which unfortunately is not the right way to approach this. As I said undock animations sucked before, and always will due to the dynamics of the game CCP has built. Massive changes will have to undertake to have some decent undock animations. For now the way it was prior to Odyssey should be the way it should always be.
maliice
Conforce
#31 - 2013-06-04 22:59:48 UTC
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Pipernelli Spacemitt
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-06-04 23:00:32 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Data site. Loot on scanner - 1.5m ISK. meh. Loot in cargohold - 9k. meeeeeeeeeeeeh Sad.

Mining is screwed.
Exploration is screwed.
Plex running Tengu is screwed.
Gravimetrics are screwed.
Ice is screwed.
Data sites are screwed.
Yet to find a single relic site.
My ships are nerfed.
Not interested in new ones.
Not interested in eye candy.
New death animation is annoying.

So far, it's Zerodyssey. Do not want. 0/10.


So basically you did all the nauseatingly easy and non-fun things in EVE and now that they require thought, effort, and/or a slightly different ship... you've thrown up your hands and declared the game over.

Well done sir. I'll have those assets if you're not going to be using them anymore!
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#33 - 2013-06-04 23:00:43 UTC
I was moving my recently acquired ice miner to a more central system for selling him and all these green icons were clogging up space. So I started checking them out and now I have all kinds of Gniess, Jaspet, Kernite and Omber sitting in various stations.

My builder thanks you CCP!

Mr Epeen Cool
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#34 - 2013-06-04 23:02:41 UTC
Pipernelli Spacemitt wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Data site. Loot on scanner - 1.5m ISK. meh. Loot in cargohold - 9k. meeeeeeeeeeeeh Sad.

Mining is screwed.
Exploration is screwed.
Plex running Tengu is screwed.
Gravimetrics are screwed.
Ice is screwed.
Data sites are screwed.
Yet to find a single relic site.
My ships are nerfed.
Not interested in new ones.
Not interested in eye candy.
New death animation is annoying.

So far, it's Zerodyssey. Do not want. 0/10.


So basically you did all the nauseatingly easy and non-fun things in EVE and now that they require thought, effort, and/or a slightly different ship... you've thrown up your hands and declared the game over.

Well done sir. I'll have those assets if you're not going to be using them anymore!


Ahem, what? I am sorry, but I have no idea what are you talking about.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#35 - 2013-06-04 23:08:15 UTC
Pipernelli Spacemitt wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Data site. Loot on scanner - 1.5m ISK. meh. Loot in cargohold - 9k. meeeeeeeeeeeeh Sad.

Mining is screwed.
Exploration is screwed.
Plex running Tengu is screwed.
Gravimetrics are screwed.
Ice is screwed.
Data sites are screwed.
Yet to find a single relic site.
My ships are nerfed.
Not interested in new ones.
Not interested in eye candy.
New death animation is annoying.

So far, it's Zerodyssey. Do not want. 0/10.


So basically you did all the nauseatingly easy and non-fun things in EVE and now that they require thought, effort, and/or a slightly different ship... you've thrown up your hands and declared the game over.

Well done sir. I'll have those assets if you're not going to be using them anymore!


Err many of those things where actually changed to require less thought, effort, or a different ship. Most exploration items for example.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Akaraut
Dawn and Dusk Industries
#36 - 2013-06-04 23:09:57 UTC
loving the new stuff so far. The new animations are a welcome change, skill trees for ships are a lot better thought out than they were before, the big undock / captain's quarters buttons are nice to have and despite what people have been saying about scanning, the changes were very much needed.

Still got to test out some of the other changes, like training two toon on the same account though.

While the Ice changes don't effect me, i'm all for adding an extra step to the process.
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#37 - 2013-06-04 23:14:01 UTC
Malak Dawnfire wrote:
Everybody is vomiting, so no.



The ride isn't worth the fee if you don't spew.
Grey Beard
Alpha Republic - Transcenders of Space and Time
Solyaris Chtonium
#38 - 2013-06-04 23:15:15 UTC
Dimple Dallocort wrote:
I know I amBig smile




I am enjoying it. First off scanning is so nice now... i hated it and now its not a chore.. this is my favorite thing so far thanks CCP. the first WH i tried scanning took less then 2 minutes. awesome. (No sarcasm there)

Jump gate animations is cool.. i did about 30 jumps one after another.. i dont understand how people are getting motion sickness from it. Sounds silly.

Cant wait to try out new revamped battleships and navy BC now.
Devok Jumarin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-06-04 23:15:28 UTC
Midnight Hope wrote:
They changed a bunch of things that didn't need change, specially around probing/scanning.


This^2
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#40 - 2013-06-04 23:18:34 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Err many of those things where actually changed to require less thought, effort, or a different ship. Most exploration items for example.

Exactly.
I mean, I haven't even finished training for Tengu yet, nor I possess one. It's my corp mates who got hit by this change.
Exploration requires less thought and effort than ever before. Ice mining basically becomes Ice camping, where the trick is not sitting tight and mining ice, but sitting tight while NOT mining ice. And on top of that, every gravimetric site is a ganker's paradise, happily mined out by venturebots.

So I have no idea about any effort, thought, or slightly different ship involved in this change. Care to elaborate, Pipernelli Spacemit?

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
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