EVE General Discussion

I appreciate the post. And pretty much everything you say is correct.

I do think you're still missing one very small point i'm trying to make though. It's this expectation you have of everyone to go to the forums and/or read every snippet of information out there such as the notes on the launcher. It's just the sheer magnitude of the consequences of these updates that make it so different than other patches CCP make. This link http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234 should not have been left amongst the forums or where ever it was. It should have been directly sent to each player via mail. That is the necessary step that should have been taken to bring players up to speed. CCP do have a responsibility to it's players and that responsibility should not be ignored. I, like many other players come home to unwind with EVE with some relaxed activities. There are many play styles out there and not all of them are so hardcore that it requires constant checking up on what's going on behind the scenes. It's behind the scenes for a reason and i'm happy to accept new content the way it is when it comes out. This however, is different and it is in this case where CCP need to reach out to people who don't go looking for this kind of information.

Yes. I could have prevented this. But CCP, the developers could have also prevented this. They have the resources. It isn't my job to come home every night and begin researching "How not to get screwed in EVE Online".

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And I want to make this clear because i'm getting tired of reading the same posts: I DO take some blame in what happened to me. I'm not claiming to be 100% blame free.

The 2 FIRST things i opened when i started eve 3 years ago have been the forums (which had a dev blogs section) and the wiki. The FIRST news that you saw on the eve website, and that you can still see at the bottom, were the dev blogs and press releases. By just opening the website i could keep myself up to date which was happening in the game.

Do not pretend newbies don't find the information because it's not obvious. People who willingly ignore easily reachable data and expect every information to be handed to them are however.

Just as a really interesting question, how often in other MMOs you surely play such as WOW, are the patch notes handed to you by ingame emails and notifications? How often do you receive a mail describing law changes voted by any assemblies that are in your country?
Answer: none.

Why should EVE be different?

They are preventing this. They provide every resource needed.

You keep massively inflating the effort you have to do. It's one page you need to check on every now and then. Or you could be modern and fancy and use an RSS reader and do fsck-all work to get your hands on the information reliably, automatically, and immediately.

No, it really shouldn't, because that kind of unsolicited spam is very high on the list of annoyances you'll encounter among players. It will also be ignored by those who need it the most for the same reason they ignore the myriad of other avenues used to get their attention: because it's what they do — they ignore things. End result: lots of people get annoyed, and those who need the information don't get it.

If you want to stay informed, make sure you stay informed. It's a very simple maxim.

So, you are saying that you are deaf and blind, and so you should be moved off of the train tracks?

I would like to know which other games send you mails when they make changes.

You have been told all the easy ways in which you got information about this patch, including talking to your corp mates.

Your answer has been "but why should I click an item in my launcher"

How do we know you would open an ingame mail and click a link in there, when that requires at least 2 more clicks

- hahaha, did I smell a rhetorical question there ?

And btw. a train often can not stop and all possible precautions have been taken, someone ignoring all signs, warnings and still climbs over a barbed wire fence and uses the tracks for a bed... maybe is meant to suffer the consequences of evolution.

And you can talk and try to keep this thread up for some compassion (and believe me, the ones playing it, are also laughing behind their screen) but it will not help, your credibility of having brains or being capable of having a decent argument are nil.

Seen a lot of analogies lately that just barely look to be valid, but by far are they truly off course most of the time, the rest, not even close.

Then I recommend you biomass your characters now, ask CCP for a refund and put that money towards Hello Kitty Online.

You sure? It wasnt sent to you in an evemail.

tbh, I am surprised you managed to figure out how to train skills, and I am guessing you have no evemon, or any ship fittings, as both those things require waaaay more clicking than a link in the launcher.

You're the CEO of a 22-man corporation so paying attention to the broader goings on of Eve Online should be one of your responsibilities anyway.

Changes to the gameplay from things like mechanics tweaks, new modules and ship rebalancing can have a profound affect on your corps activities and a savvy CEO will be absorbing every word that CCP says in its devblogs in case there's something there relevant to you which can give you an edge or avoid a pitfall.

I'm not savvy. I'm still learning.

Actually, CCP could have sent every active account an Eve Mail with a list of the changes along with an explanation of those changes.

No where does it say when you subscribe to this game that you have to research the internet or be an active member of these forums just to gain important info about the game.



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