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This is unfair. You have cheated me, CCP :(

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#41 - 2013-06-04 19:52:11 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Kangaax wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234

Note this was posted on febuary.

A ton of ******* good that did for those of us trained before February.

Those who trained before February got (and still get) exactly what they trained for.
Skippy Usenet
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-06-04 19:56:34 UTC
Kangaax wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234

Note this was posted on febuary.


First time I've seen this. I wouldn't describe my Eve activities as living under a rock.
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2013-06-04 19:59:27 UTC
Skippy Usenet wrote:
Kangaax wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234

Note this was posted on febuary.


First time I've seen this. I wouldn't describe my Eve activities as living under a rock.


Same, If something like this had been posted in game to everyone it wouldn't have been missed by a single player.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#44 - 2013-06-04 20:00:47 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Same, If something like this had been posted in game to everyone it wouldn't have been missed by a single player.
Fun fact: it has been.
History has already proven your hypothesis wrong many many times.
Totalrx
NA No Assholes
#45 - 2013-06-04 20:16:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Totalrx
Hmmm, lemme see here......

No matter what launcher format has been used, news articles have been linked in the initial launch for a long time. I remember seeing the skill tree article linked in the old launcher. It was after I read that, that I came to forums to look further into it.

I found out about months ago - by launching the game.

Just because you do not pay attention to the information being provided to you is no fault of CCP's.
Pepper Solette
Doomheim
#46 - 2013-06-04 20:16:58 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:

You managed to find your way onto the forums to whine pretty easily, you had months to do the same thing to find out about patch notes and expansions.



That's the best answer i've read and sure as **** hits the nail on the head.

I've had to order a tanker truck for the sheer amount of tears i've read through today.

** Miko Sunji:  "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."**
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-06-04 20:18:15 UTC
It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.

I lied :o
Terajima Kazumi
Perkone
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-06-04 20:18:34 UTC
24 days isn't that long. You'll live.
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-06-04 20:26:28 UTC
Drew Solaert wrote:
It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.


Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#50 - 2013-06-04 20:33:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Zaryte wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.

Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.
Everywhere that matters, including in-game.

…not that in-game is a particularly normal or natural place for such information since it's commonly something that's posted on the official game website. Such as this one. Kind of like what they did with this information. Half a year ago. Actually, one and a half a year ago, if we look for the original announcement.
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2013-06-04 20:39:42 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Zaryte wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.

Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.
Everywhere that matters, including in-game.

…not that in-game is a particularly normal or natural place for such information since it's commonly something that's posted on the official game website. Such as this one. Kind of like what they did with this information. Half a year ago. Actually, one and a half a year ago, if we look for the original announcement.


So you expect each and every player to regularly go to the EVE website to check if they're being screwed over? If that's the case that's unaaceptable and should NOT be expected.

Give us new guys a break and loosen up with your elite-ism.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-06-04 20:48:25 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Zaryte wrote:
All my attention is IN game where it belongs, not on every EVE forum out there.
Who said anything about “every EVE forum out there”?

So after you having missed out on crucial information because you didn't pay attention to the official EVE forums, and a page of people telling you that if you had paid attention to the official EVE forums you would have been informed, your conclusion is that your attention doesn't belong on the forums? Let's see if you can spot the error in your reasoning here…



Not to mention the SAME forums that have been talking about the changes for some time.

The SAME forums he came to in order to write up a complaint.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2013-06-04 20:50:58 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Tippia wrote:

Actually, the bottom line is “review your attitude towards staying updated to game changes.”
You made a mistake. Learn from it.


I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault. Forums are separate from the game and players aren't expected to use them. Important information like this should be posted in-game where there's no excuse to missing it. Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news. And that IS the bottom line.

I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information as I now know CCP don't put the information where it should be. IN game.



Then you shouldn't feel cheated, and you should also feel relieved that the "free" skillpoints you refer to is only attributed to a cost of clone maintenance since you rushed into freighting, the other skills don't even apply.

Trust me, you'll have more 24 day skill queues in your future.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2013-06-04 20:52:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Zaryte wrote:
I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault.
Deciding not to go to the primary source of information is pretty much your fault, especially when it's being advertised from in-game. You're not the first one to make this mistake, but it is still a mistake to not seek out that source of information.

Quote:
Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news.
Yes it is. That's the whole point of having forums.

Quote:
I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information
…or you can just skip the third-party source and go for the first-party source: the developers themselves and the information they put out in blogs, forum posts, news items — all conveniently gathered in a single place.



I do recall seeing on my launcher something along the lines of "devblog:see new upcoming changes to the odyssey expansion!" on the side.

Both new and old launcher.

(side note, wtf am I doing supporting Tippia?!)

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Lexmana
#55 - 2013-06-04 20:54:24 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Zaryte wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.

Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.
Everywhere that matters, including in-game.

…not that in-game is a particularly normal or natural place for such information since it's commonly something that's posted on the official game website. Such as this one. Kind of like what they did with this information. Half a year ago. Actually, one and a half a year ago, if we look for the original announcement.


So you expect each and every player to regularly go to the EVE website to check if they're being screwed over? If that's the case that's unaaceptable and should NOT be expected.

Give us new guys a break and loosen up with your elite-ism.

lol. and what would be the alternative ... DEVS personally knocking on your door to discuss the next expansion?
Totalrx
NA No Assholes
#56 - 2013-06-04 20:57:31 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.


Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.


Read my post above -

I found out about it when I launched the game. Not from the forums or the main website, but from launching the game.

Saying that you should have received an email for information that was already provided to you is absurd. It's not the developers fault you did not read the info provided to you. It's not their responsibility to hand it to you on a silver platter.
Deimos Ovaert
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2013-06-04 21:08:36 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Tippia wrote:

Actually, the bottom line is “review your attitude towards staying updated to game changes.”
You made a mistake. Learn from it.


I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault. Forums are separate from the game and players aren't expected to use them. Important information like this should be posted in-game where there's no excuse to missing it. Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news. And that IS the bottom line.

I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information as I now know CCP don't put the information where it should be. IN game.


7.25 on my troll'o'meter, would recommend to friends.
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2013-06-04 21:14:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaryte
Lexmana wrote:

lol. and what would be the alternative ... DEVS personally knocking on your door to discuss the next expansion?


Actually an in-game Mail would've been sufficient.
Tea Leaves
Abyssus Spatium Exploratorium
#59 - 2013-06-04 21:23:21 UTC
Zaryte wrote:
Lexmana wrote:

lol. and what would be the alternative ... DEVS personally knocking on your door to discuss the next expansion?


Actually an in-game Mail would've been sufficient.


In game mail. Psh.

You know when you log in and it shows your little character and ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IN GAME THERE ARE BLOG ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT YOU CAN GO LOOK AT.

You're not the victim here, you're a ****** who apparently doesn't know how to read.

Maybe CCP can resurrect the "door" for you to be shown.
Zaryte
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-06-04 21:23:40 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:


Not to mention the SAME forums that have been talking about the changes for some time.

The SAME forums he came to in order to write up a complaint.


Before today i've never had a reason to come to these forums. This is the first time i've ever been here.