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CCP amuses me when you all thought ice and r64 were the only score this patch they bring you....

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Madmansreturn
Space Fukery
#21 - 2013-06-04 19:02:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Madmansreturn
The only thing i realised that some T2 components now need this terahertz **** to build. As an example for Amarr tech
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#22 - 2013-06-04 19:06:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Madmansreturn wrote:
The only thing i realised that some T2 components now need this terahertz **** to build. As an example for Amarr tech


That change was at the least hinted in the patch notes.But my found is not that.

knowledge is power.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#23 - 2013-06-04 20:09:04 UTC
Probably not the 'access pos modules from out with 3km' as that was mentioned in a dev blog.

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Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#24 - 2013-06-04 20:10:42 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Probably not the 'access pos modules from out with 3km' as that was mentioned in a dev blog.


yes its not that.

knowledge is power.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#25 - 2013-06-04 20:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
As long as you are not referring to the changes in ore value. Omber has been worthless for ages, and is now worth mining again, SPOD and Gneiss now beat out all the high sec ores except Pyroxeres. Veldspar is back at the bottom, where it should be.

So many changes, trying to pin point the less obvious one you are talking about is like picking a specific card out of the deck, without knowing what it is. I used to be good at that, but only when I was holding the deck.

lets see,
Capital rig BPO's are seeded, some of the capital rigs did not get the ME/PE research time updated properly, likely a bug. .If you get the research going right away you might get some free ME levels before they get switched from 30 minutes to 30 days.

refining quotes now actually show 100% return if you are getting 100% return? but that is old news.

skill requirements have changed for a number of ships, including some industrial ships?

Some changes to POS mechanics, aside for the new module?

Did I see a couple new T2 modules for stuff that was only T1 before?

The nerf to T2 BPO's?

The high sec grav sites being anomalies now, show on system scan.

Faction probes and launcher have dropped way down in price.

there is a tonne of other small changes, you have given no clue as to what change you are talking about.

You will have to be more specific, at least with the type of industrial activity it relates too. There are just to many small changes for you comment to mean anything.

ShockedShockedShocked I found a small change that was not listed in the patch notes, as an industrial player I will make some isk off it. Yeah I have dozens of those, considering this expansion focused on exploration and industrial changes. There were several to small to mention in the patch notes that an observant player could make a few buck off of. What makes you think what you found was hidden so well?
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#26 - 2013-06-04 20:32:02 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
As long as you are not referring to the changes in ore value. Omber has been worthless for ages, and is now worth mining again, SPOD and Gneiss now beat out all the high sec ores except Pyroxeres. Veldspar is back at the bottom, where it should be.

Nope not that.

knowledge is power.
El 1974
Green Visstick High
#27 - 2013-06-04 20:33:26 UTC
You must be referring to that new source of cheap tritanium.
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#28 - 2013-06-04 20:41:55 UTC
El 1974 wrote:
You must be referring to that new source of cheap tritanium.


No im not.I'm its something else.

knowledge is power.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#29 - 2013-06-04 20:44:57 UTC
So we can assume it is market related, since you posted in the market discussion thread, or was that a miss direction? Should it have been in the science and industry thread?
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#30 - 2013-06-04 20:46:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Grozen
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
As long as you are not referring to the changes in ore value. Omber has been worthless for ages, and is now worth mining again, SPOD and Gneiss now beat out all the high sec ores except Pyroxeres. Veldspar is back at the bottom, where it should be.

So many changes, trying to pin point the less obvious one you are talking about is like picking a specific card out of the deck, without knowing what it is. I used to be good at that, but only when I was holding the deck.

lets see,
Capital rig BPO's are seeded, some of the capital rigs did not get the ME/PE research time updated properly, likely a bug. .If you get the research going right away you might get some free ME levels before they get switched from 30 minutes to 30 days.

refining quotes now actually show 100% return if you are getting 100% return? but that is old news.

skill requirements have changed for a number of ships, including some industrial ships?

Some changes to POS mechanics, aside for the new module?

Did I see a couple new T2 modules for stuff that was only T1 before?

The nerf to T2 BPO's?

The high sec grav sites being anomalies now, show on system scan.

Faction probes and launcher have dropped way down in price.

there is a tonne of other small changes, you have given no clue as to what change you are talking about.

You will have to be more specific, at least with the type of industrial activity it relates too. There are just to many small changes for you comment to mean anything.

ShockedShockedShocked I found a small change that was not listed in the patch notes, as an industrial player I will make some isk off it. Yeah I have dozens of those, considering this expansion focused on exploration and industrial changes. There were several to small to mention in the patch notes that an observant player could make a few buck off of. What makes you think what you found was hidden so well?


You're looking in the correct places but like I said its not in the patch notes therefore you might as well look for needle in haystack that way and I will repeat again its industry related but i posted it here because it also will impact markets.

Also i dont think we can refer to it as something hidden its either:
1.Someone forgot to write it down
2.CCP decided its not worth mentioning just like the skillbooks/bpo changes.

knowledge is power.
Adunh Slavy
#31 - 2013-06-04 20:56:35 UTC

When does the offer to tell the secret for some ISK happen? Maybe a secret that can double ISK, and in jita no less.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#32 - 2013-06-04 21:01:04 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:

When does the offer to tell the secret for some ISK happen? Maybe a secret that can double ISK, and in jita no less.

Haha well, like i said its nothing on a grand scale even if I tell someone now they will not be able to earn more than 6-7b and that will require 2-3weeks time the best part of the pie was rather small and i ate it already.

knowledge is power.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#33 - 2013-06-04 21:03:59 UTC
Well i guess i'll just wait and see, my capital is all tied up now anyway.
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#34 - 2013-06-04 21:08:52 UTC
I think that those that expect something along the lines of omg this is worth trillions will be dissapointed I jumped on what was very small piece in a new area and I don't expect profits to exceed 13b.Just sayin so that ppl don't get very angry when they see it was something rather small but still with reasonable market impact.

knowledge is power.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-06-04 21:16:07 UTC
Grozen wrote:
Yes you've heard me right ladies and gents CCP changed something in a very very big way without anouncing it in the patch notes, i will hint that it only impacts industrialists.Happy hunting;)

I found it by a mere accident today.


I found it, too... and it's solidly in the "right under your nose" category... Ka-ching !

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Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#36 - 2013-06-04 21:24:38 UTC
I was just browsing eve-central by the looks of it people in the other(besides jita) regional hubs are not aware of it.So everyone will be happy to know that by tomorrow there will be stll some pie left.

knowledge is power.
Evele
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-06-04 21:31:51 UTC
dumbest post ever, hey guys i know something you dont, nenee nenee poo poo..
Tylo Tungsten
Mega Global Compucon
#38 - 2013-06-04 21:34:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tylo Tungsten
I'm pretty sure this is 90% of the subtext amongst anyone who plays any market, in real-life or a game. :D

So it's Industrial related, "right under your nose", "everyone has access to it", and it is searchable on Eve Central.

I am 90% sure it is some sort of component used in T2 production, in which case I have no hope of knowing what it is, because I still know jack about that side of the game. I am new to industry and only work with T1 stuff.

Also I can't believe that 5-13 billion is "small change" to you people. P
Halvan Zan
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-06-04 21:39:41 UTC
As a relatively new player, throw me a bone and send me a message with your knowledge. I will keep my mouth shut. I am just hungry for a piece of pie man. Mmmm. Pie. Seriously though. Please?

Anything to do with reprocessing?
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-06-04 21:39:43 UTC
If you've got something and want to keep it to yourself, keep it to yourself. If you want to tell, tell. But coming to the forums to inflate your ego a little like you're the big man with the secret of the Universe?

Pathetic.