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A touch of motion sickness...?

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#41 - 2013-06-04 18:51:39 UTC
I'm gonna check the effects out now. Last game I played was the HD remake of Zone Of The Enders 2, so I'm not too worried.
Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
#42 - 2013-06-04 18:52:54 UTC
CCP Sisyphus wrote:
press C.
or change setting in selected items window -

I understand that we can switch it back.. by why was it changed at all - the default behavior?
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#43 - 2013-06-04 19:02:05 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.


Dude, is the motion speed they use that causes this.
I have run into this in certain games as well. It's not fun, and CCP is going to literally make thousands of their customers sick.....Lol

I just have to wonder who's making these decisions....

Signature removed - CCP Eterne
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-06-04 19:05:29 UTC
Lost Hamster wrote:
CCP Sisyphus wrote:
press C.
or change setting in selected items window -

I understand that we can switch it back.. by why was it changed at all - the default behavior?


Easy enough - read a couple other posts here - 'more immersive" - it's an enhanced effect that some like - others don't. That's not unusual with any kind of change.

If you recall the model changes on some ships - some liked the old models better, others like the newer ones. Change does that. They at least left the ability to adjust it back in the user's hands but presenting the new animation as the default.

Their apprach beats the snot out of how Windows 8 is being done and that's from a somewhat larger outfit. P
Quindaster
Infernal Laboratory
Infernal Octopus
#45 - 2013-06-04 19:45:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Quindaster
Ranger 1 wrote:
Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.



I play in UT99 more than 10 years and I know everything about motion and effects, and I tell you how we play in combat video games...it's very easy, because WE ROTATE CAMERA in direction where WE WANT IT AND WE follow it BY OUR eyes and not someone else randomly rotate camera like in EVE after last patch.
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#46 - 2013-06-04 19:49:59 UTC
I also would like the option to turn off the new jump effects. The spinning that is.
Paarlander
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-06-04 19:50:28 UTC
Yes it's driving me nuts, try doing a fast paced roam with 50+ jumps. makes me dizzy......
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#48 - 2013-06-04 19:50:45 UTC
Guttripper wrote:
I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps.


Sorry about your sea sickness, but I do remember people wanting a more immersive gameplay experience, and everyone knows you cant have a fluid universe submarine spaceship game without sea sickness.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Qual
Knights of a Once Square Table INC.
#49 - 2013-06-04 20:02:15 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

Actually, your camera view changed under the old way as well. You just don't notice it as much due to the loading screen and the fact that you didn't see the camera swing.


No, it did not. I did a side by side compare when I did the bug report. Trust me on this one.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2013-06-04 20:02:55 UTC
Just do what the pirates did in the time long gone.. consume copious amounts of Dark rum..
Marangwe
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-06-04 20:06:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Marangwe
Rose Hips wrote:

In the lore... the human non capsuleer would feel queazy during jumps. So uh yeah get your jump legs and watch out for the Unicorns in the jump tunnels (true story).


You can't get any more "Eve is real" than that.

CCP bringing immersion one step at a time.

First it was sweaty palms and intense adrenaline. Now it's full on warp nausea and regurgitation!

CCP FTW! Cool
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#52 - 2013-06-04 20:07:46 UTC
Quindaster wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.



I play in UT99 more than 10 years and I know everything about motion and effects, and I tell you how we play in combat video games...it's very easy, because WE ROTATE CAMERA in direction where WE WANT IT AND WE follow it BY OUR eyes and not someone else randomly rotate camera like in EVE after last patch.

So it's not the motion, but the fact that you aren't in control over it... or the fact that if you were in control of it you would be swinging the camera around far more quickly.

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Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#53 - 2013-06-04 20:18:42 UTC
You guys know that CCP turned off the setting on your eyes so that they can't close, ermygerd give me 50 SP!!!11!!!one11!!

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-06-04 20:23:51 UTC
Yeah, I hope they can tone it down. I liked the similar effect in X3 and Asheron's call, but if this effect is much worse than the latter's equivalent of the sucking tunnel of doom I might just have to alt-tab to keep myself from hurling. And btw, this is a problem in most games so CCP isn't any special kind of villain here. It's hard to peg the *just right* in terms of the magnitude of a visual effect.
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-06-04 20:26:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Korah Arnelle
BTW, for a random CCP dev that bothered to look at this thread I do have one potential suggestion, and I'm sure Soundwave will say NO (probably scream it at the monitor while throwing said monitor out a window, but wth). Why not grift the whole Indiana Jones transition? Not literally like a red line traveling down a constellation map from and to, but more like a simple animation which indicates a similar loading effect as the old loading bar. A simple thing like this can be done well in a minimalist manner that isn't as immersion breaking as a basic loading combobox. Just sayin'.
Jori McKie
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2013-06-04 20:31:54 UTC
You can bear this jump animation the first several times but after 20 fast paced jumps in a Frig i had to quit Eve. I'm not getting seasick or anything but the human eye is dedicated to track motion something from way back when we were prey. Your eyes are always focusing on this fast rotating zooming camera just before the jump, you can't avoid it and it is driving me nuts.
The actual warp effect after the jump is just annoying and unnecessary.

So CCP please let us have the option to turn it off.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar
Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#57 - 2013-06-04 21:00:25 UTC
I doubt that CCP gives a damn about what any of you say, only what you do.

If you hate it that much start unsubbing and that will get their attention
Ckra Trald
Ckra Trald Corporation
#58 - 2013-06-04 21:18:23 UTC
play eve online on a boat with 30 foot waves while smelling 2 month old fish

that ought to get those stomach muscles moving

http://www.rusemen.com/ Join Tengoo xd
Verlyn
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#59 - 2013-06-04 21:22:03 UTC
What is it with stupid as **** designers these days ?
Malak Dawnfire
Unquestionable Prosperity
Grand Inquisitors Federation
#60 - 2013-06-04 21:38:37 UTC
HELP I'VE WARPED AND AM ABOUT TO THROW UP!