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Jita population limit and gate issues caused by CCP?
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Porkita
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-04 19:25:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Porkita
Hello!

Our corporation noticed, that the Jita population has been reduced to 1900.

It becomes very difficult to enter Jita, it takes an additional 5 to 20 minutes to succeed getting into Jita and tens or a hundred clicks on "Jump" button.

Right now, the Perimeter gate to Jita has 200 pilots waiting. Yes, more than 200 pilots are shown in the overview on the Perimeter gate.

Freighting services need to be able to enter Jita very frequently several times a day and the current situation causes serious issues and delays, as also makes the game unsatisfactory to play, when an action fails a hundred times and adds such high delays, before you can proceed.


  • What is the purpose of causing such issues in the game?
  • Why is CCP not increasing the population limit, which has been the recent week often at it's limit.
  • Why is CCP even making it worse by taking counterproductive measures?

    • We as a freighting service don't have a choice to just move to another system. We have to provide the service our customers and hundreds of other players and corporations demand from us!

    So this is not just something affecting one player or one corporation, but hundreds others, that come together at points like these, when you serve hundreds customers as corporation.

    When will issues like these be adressed, CCP?

    There is no need to move stuff, because now you can push it!
    Contract Mule
    Doomheim
    #2 - 2013-06-04 19:27:05 UTC
    Lag

    /thread
    Lipbite
    Express Hauler
    #3 - 2013-06-04 19:27:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
    Porkita wrote:
    it takes an additional 5 to 20 minutes to succeed getting into Jita


    click - Esc - click - Esc - rinse and repeat ~20 seconds - jump
    Tippia
    Sunshine and Lollipops
    #4 - 2013-06-04 19:28:15 UTC
    Porkita wrote:
    Right now, the Perimeter gate to Jita has 200 pilots waiting. Yes, more than 200 pilots are shown in the overview on the Perimeter gate.
    Bring out the Tornadoes?
    Tinkerbel Ducttape
    Sebiestor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #5 - 2013-06-04 19:28:15 UTC
    but, but.. we got cool new grafics that we cannot turn of even if we get sick.
    Emma Royd
    Maddled Gommerils
    #6 - 2013-06-04 19:29:04 UTC
    There is only 1 solution to the jita problem, mute local and the population will half within a day Twisted
    Some Rando
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #7 - 2013-06-04 19:31:22 UTC
    Use another trade hub.

    CCP has no sense of humour.
    Khira Kitamatsu
    #8 - 2013-06-04 19:34:04 UTC
    Some Rando wrote:
    Use another trade hub.


    ^^^ This ^^^

    Ponies!  We need more ponies!
    Darvaleth Sigma
    Imperial Security Hegemony
    #9 - 2013-06-04 19:34:16 UTC
    Tinkerbel Ducttape wrote:
    but, but.. we got cool new grafics that we cannot turn of even if we get sick.


    Did it ever occur to you that CCP did not turn off the function that allows your eyes to close? Wow.

    Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

    Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
    Charlie Jacobson
    #10 - 2013-06-04 19:34:21 UTC
    Tippia wrote:
    Porkita wrote:
    Right now, the Perimeter gate to Jita has 200 pilots waiting. Yes, more than 200 pilots are shown in the overview on the Perimeter gate.
    Bring out the Tornadoes?


    And the smarty geddons!

    I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
    Jim McMorris
    McMorris Co.
    #11 - 2013-06-04 19:36:56 UTC
    If not lowering the limit, there needs to be a real queue system at the very least. At the moment, its a matter of right clicking and hoping for the best - no matter who long you've been waiting.

    [b]Chief Executive Officer McMorris Co. EVE's Only Legitimate ISK Doubling Corporation[/b]
    Amelia Ryan
    CONCORD Operations
    #12 - 2013-06-04 19:37:29 UTC
    Porkita wrote:
    Right now, the Perimeter gate to Jita has 200 pilots waiting. Yes, more than 200 pilots are shown in the overview on the Perimeter gate.


    Most of those people are probably just on autopilot and afk.
    elven angle
    Doomheim
    #13 - 2013-06-04 19:39:23 UTC
    thank you for all of the prytiness ccp...

    but ...... you cant even get a fundementale thing like JITA to opperate properly

    come on sort out your priorites.
    Porkita
    Center for Advanced Studies
    Gallente Federation
    #14 - 2013-06-04 19:40:04 UTC
    Jim McMorris wrote:
    If not lowering the limit, there needs to be a real queue system at the very least. At the moment, its a matter of right clicking and hoping for the best - no matter who long you've been waiting.



    Thank you! At least one good suggestion that I think many would like.
    This would make things like these not just a matter of luck.

    On the other side, instead of developing something new, I wonder why CCP does not increase in cases like these server capacities as required to keep things smooth in the game.

    There is no need to move stuff, because now you can push it!
    Lykouleon
    Noble Sentiments
    Second Empire.
    #15 - 2013-06-04 19:41:12 UTC
    Some Rando wrote:
    Use another trade hub.

    Because a freighter service can make deliveries to a specified trade hub at another trade hub...

    Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
    Khadann
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #16 - 2013-06-04 19:43:18 UTC
    What is the closest trade hub then? Or the best second option?

    Dodixie or Amarr? which one is the more active?
    Unsuccessful At Everything
    The Troll Bridge
    #17 - 2013-06-04 19:44:13 UTC
    If only there were additional trade hubs, and secondary hubs scattered throughout the empires. We could maybe put those hubs in Amarr, Dodixie and Rens. Maybe then people wouldnt have to go to Jita.

    Too bad something like this hasnt been implemented yet.

    Maybe with the next expansion.

    Eve Online: Whats a Jita?

    Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
    Victoria Sin
    Doomheim
    #18 - 2013-06-04 19:46:39 UTC
    Khira Kitamatsu wrote:
    Some Rando wrote:
    Use another trade hub.


    ^^^ This ^^^


    Not going to happen, is it. Prices are still most optimised of all the trade hubs, in Jita (except a few items). Selling is a different matter, but even there for some things you'll want to sell in larger volumes. Let me give you an example (on the way to Jita right now to buy stuff actually):

    Titanium Diborite Armor Plate Jita: 8,007, Amarr: 11,900.

    If I'm manufacturing, I'm going to go to Jita regardless of the lag. Also, I'm going to keep an alt there to do price checks.

    That's just how things are.
    Some Rando
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #19 - 2013-06-04 19:47:26 UTC
    Lykouleon wrote:
    Some Rando wrote:
    Use another trade hub.

    Because a freighter service can make deliveries to a specified trade hub at another trade hub...

    Goon smartass detection best ... uh ... never mind.

    CCP has no sense of humour.
    Mc Scam
    Doomheim
    #20 - 2013-06-04 20:40:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Mc Scam
    Well there was 10% tidi when Jita had 2150 ppl so CCP had to do something and they did.

    This happened last expansion aswell. With the retribuition patch the limit went from ~2450 to ~2200(they did lots of tweaking and patching I believe it was at 1800 at some point) and now from ~2200 to ~1900. I expect it to get better the next days or maybe with the next hotfixes. Edit: Numbers may be a bit off, my memory isn't the best.

    Amarr seems to gain popularity fast and is imho a better choise for newbro traders and people with small pockets and not much time.
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