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New Undock Button: Cute but Frustrating
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Warr Akini
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-04 13:09:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Warr Akini
In short: the Undock button is one of the few absolutely key buttons that people click all the time (insert joke about ship spinners), and having it loose and mobile with the station services tab is not a good idea.

In long:

I like the new Odyssey UI design. It's cute, and it's pretty functional. In station, though, people rely on certain buttons being fixed in places they can reliably get to. The Station Services tab has always been a hindrance (especially to multiboxers) in the sense that it can be moved around with a simple accidental flick. Moving the undock button to the station services tab adds another unnecessary unreliability for people that might have to look around for the button, especially if covered by inventory and the like.

So, I'd like to suggest one of three options:


  • Give an option to have an old-style undock button on the bottom of the left navbar. This lets people play EVE the way they want, whether they put emphasis on function or finesse.
  • Move the undock button back to the navbar, for the reasons above.
  • Let the station services tab be locked. This would solve a whole lot of problems for multiboxers that have to fiddle with the station services in different spots on every account and don't want to ruin all the things by resetting all window positions.


For people with this problem, don't forget that you can set a keyboard shortcut to undock. It's a nice workaround, but annoying.
Madlof Chev
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-06-04 13:13:40 UTC
Moving the undock button was a baaaaaad choice. My muscle memory is being screwed with as we speak.
Anderton Faln
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-04 13:13:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Anderton Faln
Absolutely. It's way easier to miss the button now and not notice because the visual notification is much more subtle than the loading bar - at least when multiboxing.

And yeah, my muscle memory backbone. Sad
Zhade Lezte
#4 - 2013-06-04 13:24:48 UTC
Warr Akini wrote:


    *snip*
  • Let the station services tab be locked. This would solve a whole lot of problems for multiboxers that have to fiddle with the station services in different spots on every account and don't want to ruin all the things by resetting all window positions.


Even disregarding the legitimate multiboxing issue, this should absolutely be enabled if it is at all feasible just for how useful it would be for me as a player who doesn't use multiboxing software (at least not currently), and thus presumably other players like me. I hate accidentally dragging **** around because my computer hiccups and such.

What was the rationale for moving the undock button anyways?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2013-06-04 13:28:23 UTC
Why move it in the first place tbh? This change is a bad one and completely unnecessary.

Some changes of late, make me feel like the not so old and bad CCP is returning.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#6 - 2013-06-04 13:54:12 UTC
+1. Signed. This got me on SiSi and I even have a Shortcut assigned for it! Damn Station Services moving around when you try this out with a mouse...bahhhh lol.

[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b] Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#7 - 2013-06-04 13:56:01 UTC
Warr Akini wrote:
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Might be worth posting up in here as well: Official Odyssey Feedback Thread

[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b] Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#8 - 2013-06-04 14:13:20 UTC
It's nice to see the undock button finally moved on TQ. I kept looking for the undock button in the SiSi location, but it was always at the bottom of the Neocom instead.

You'll adjust.

Mag's: If moving an undock button makes you think that CCP is going back to their Incarna ways, I just don't know what to make of that.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#9 - 2013-06-04 14:24:34 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
It's nice to see the undock button finally moved on TQ. I kept looking for the undock button in the SiSi location, but it was always at the bottom of the Neocom instead.

You'll adjust.

Mag's: If moving an undock button makes you think that CCP is going back to their Incarna ways, I just don't know what to make of that.
It's the 'ignore feedback, it'll be OK' stance I was hinting at. Followed closely with sincere apologies and we are listening posts.

Yea I'm sure adjustment will happen, but that doesn't make the change a good one.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.