EVE General Discussion

Next expansion EVE "Aeneis" ... Click button to automatically fit ship with ideal fitting for your skills. Also: Ponies!

CCP: "Think of all the new players we could attract if we just removed fittings altogether.. Yes, that must be why WOW is more popular. Players should play against each other, not against the fitting system, right? right?"

CCP!~ My ezmode empire exploration is now compete with newbz, please handicap them so I can cuntinue to farm with my tengu.

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CCP took a braindead-easy thing you had to take a few weeks to skill into and made it something newbros can start on in a few days.

TL;DR: Go find something more fitting of your sp level to do. Your income as a risk-averse empire bear is about to plummet and we're all laughing at you as you complain about that.

I do my own exploration. I get in a ship pick a point 60 or 70 jumps away and fly there. If I make it, I "explore" and look around. If I don't make it, I try again. I quite enjoy myself, see a lot of things, and sometimes people to chat with.

Yes, we get it, you really want there to still be grav sites, and you're willing to contrive any number of excuses for why they should continue to exist.

On the whole, as someone who spends a lot of time with a probe launcher fit, and zero time with a (*gag*) mining laser fit, I'm happy to see them gone.

At a minimum, please quit lying about this being some sort of egregious nerf to exploration when, at worst, it's a nerf to mining.

And if the goal is to get people out of high sec into low / null /WH. And to incite people to do more mining outside safe space wouldn't you say nerfing miners by buffing pvp fleets, who are now finding every so called "hidden" belt with a simple scan click a totally bass ackwards way of trying to accomplish that goal?

While we're on that topic when was the last time you've honestly seen low sec mining done at ANY belt? Go on, I'll wait. Could the answer have something to do with the fact miners don't always have PVP friends they can bring along willing to babysit, the risk doesn't match the rewards for staying in high, and there's that little detail about being able to be jumped on with a simple warp to 0 click on that belt in the dropdown menu? so hey I know lets make non safespace mining that much harder for those of us who play at odd times and can't suddenly have an entire fleet of scouts combat escorts and miners formed at the drop of a hat, what could go wrong with this plan?

Hey I know, lets scan down a WH and try to ninja some ABC ores, after all if the pvp fleet doesn't have a scanner of their own, or of the wormhole owners don't have their bookmarks updated we should be fine right? Oh wait... never mind.

And as a dedicated explorer/miner. Someone who has spent the last week and change shifting my training queue for the express purpose of being able to find grav sites faster for my corp mates, and what I -thought- was going to be the hidden ice belts I'm more then a little PO'ed as it feels like CCP just yanked the rug right out from under my profession of choice in favor of dumbing down scanning. And dumbing it down to the point where a trained monkey can do it, and now every suicide ganker in high sec has a big giant 100% ore site bullseye to say come here. Every major corp full of hulk pilots or alt armies will now with zero effort drain the high sec gravs dry before those of us who used to beat them to the punch can scan them first. Along with denying those of us who liked the skill barrier scanning provided of finding that grav and having a slighter safer chance to go after low sec or WH belts without some jerk in a tengu or {insert cloaky here] Dropping right on our heads without the warning of scan probes on D-scan.

YES it's nerf to mining, and YES I'm angry about it for that regard. but I'm also angry because it kills my primary incentive for training exploration, it kills the incentive to risk ships in low sec for mining because now I may as well use normal belts outside the range of D-scans from celestial objects,. the "hidden" ones where the higher end ores would be will probably become the prime target for pvp fleets if they see miners on scan. and again, why would anyone risk low sec belt mining without the aforementioned and hard to gather fleet when risk of 8-30 million ISK barge (before we even talk macks or hulks) + possible pod to fleet of under a million per cheap frig blobs just is not worth it?

And on top of that they claim this is an exploration buff as they remove one entire group of sites from exploration? It's an idiotic change all around on the scale of "Do you even play your own game CCP?"

Of course the dev response? "We want players to be the challenge."

Cause yes, there's such a challenge to making it even easier to gank the miners, and I'm sure those drones the scary barges could have out present a real "challenge" to a proper pvp fleet too....

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not interested in epeen sparring with an forum alt likely never left a station ;)

codebreaker II: A Hacking system used to override electronic security systems.

Edit: A hacking system that gives you access to a minigame that yields a bunch of clicks with no skill involved. Result: punishment can spew.

Right Click: Ignore Data Site / Create new scan filter and just do combat for now.

Insert Pipernelli Spacemitt comment involving tears.

it was too over complicated.

I'd do it occasionally before but it was just a pain in arse


but now they've actually made the exploration profession fun. I've been at it now for few hours, made over 80 million so far in highsec alone just goofing around...

no more solo ice mining anymore since solo ice mining is impossible now most spots disappear under an hour like Otela's did this morning by swarm of botters. I was able to get about 4 chunks of ice :P


but now swapping to exploring i've made just over 80 million from those augment discs in under an hour.



Exploring now makes money on par with level 4 mission grinding or old ice mining so I found my new profession :)

plus since you are always on the move no worry about suicide ganks with my buzzard