EVE General Discussion

it my not be your problem but it is not there problem either. if someone hits a pole and knocks out your electric or a storm comes and you lose internet. the companies do not have to compensate you for stuff like that.

and again you are paying for the right to play there game which they ultimately own and you have no legal rights too. so best case scenario you can petition eve for a 50cent refund or cancel your sub.

and ccp being a good business will probably do something awesome. but no one has the right to demand anything from ccp.
so people need to chill and take what they get and when its not 100k+ sp instead of whining about it just send me your stuff and i will give it to people who are actually loyal to ccp. not leeches who believe that there 15 bux entitles them to everything.

Obviously RL is far harsher, but i wasn't talking about RL in general, but rather how one acts as a customer. If you pay for a defective phone or a bad plumber, you don't just suck it up. Sure, sometimes you don't have a choice and you end up taking the loss, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't defend your interests.

Anyway, as i said, it's not the end of the world, and there are far worse things than a day of downtime that can happen to EVE.

And yeah, ProSyn is awesome. Suck it up safe

yes but i have seen people in other games do stupid minor exploits over hours to benefit minutely from there efforts. if you have people in a game willing to micro manage market pvp for .01 isk gain. you sure as hell have people willing to ddos to be able to gain a minute benefit from it.



ps not a troll against market pvp. have at it its just not for me ;p

It isn't a matter of entitlement. It's a matter of some people missing out on training time, as well as game time, because of the actions of some random *******. Do you really think it's right to punish everyone because of what one person or group did? Meanwhile this person or group might not even play eve. I don't think CCP take 100% of the blame on this. However, if we want to be realistic about it, the attack was made possible by a vulnerability on their end. So while I understand the situation, and am well aware that this vulnerability is nearly impossible to prevent ever happening, and is bound to happen over the course of 10 years, I also feel the people who were negatively effected by this should be compensated. Not compensating them for it will just cause more animosity towards CCP, and to be honest they've been getting a lot of that lately. The majority of it is deserved. In this case they handled it very well, but there are other things, like the launcher, stupid minigames similar to what I would expect to see in a game like WoW or Hello Kitty Online, etc. These all build up and cause animosity. To allow some sperg lord's actions to **** the entire community over could potentially push things past the breaking point.

To make it clear, I personally don't give much of a **** either way. I'm not that worried about $0.50 of game time, and I was lucky enough to have skills in training that covered the entire time the servers were down. I would however love some free SP. At this point you're just wasting your breath for the sake of being a sperging white knight. CCP have already stated they are going to compensate in some way. They haven't specified how, so that could be in the form of game time, SP, or even gifts. To go back on that would be economic suicide for them.

So in summary, stop being a white knight. It's not cool and you're a scrub for doing it. Go watch ponies or something.

And if you think someone is going to spend hundreds of dollars, or risk years of prison time to save a few days training time in a game, you're a complete mongoloid.

White Knight Extraordinaire. Also, wanting to be compensated for missing game time you paid for because of issues you had no control over isn't exactly an entitlement attitude. And how exactly does it even relate to a living? Clearly eve is a job.

I was camping when this all went down, and none of my skill-queues expired while the servers were offline. That said, I'm going to have to disagree with the OP on the grounds that I like free stuff.

The unhinged there make death threats, and Blizzard posts their forum legal warning about doing so against staff.

You don't poop on your own and buddie's house, to cause the health department to shut the whole damn neighborhood down in the process. -_-

Besides, they don't need to do a DDoS, all they need to do is have Swifty call for some competition -- or launch a popular boss -- and let the celeb crush crash the realms.

Oh, that's right EvE doesn't have that type of star power that moves tens of thousands in minutes. They have to burn their house down to maybe get some media notice -- if their fanbois would even report it to get noticed -- had to goto Massively for an update after CCP went totally dark...even the CCP Twitter link was botched.

And who would want too? Chances are even Anonymous plays WoW. Have to be a kid living under the rock to not have a level 90 there now.

Just my two ISK.

Do whatever you want, CCP.

I'm not your mother.

Interesting that there are still cultures around that blame the victim for a crime committed against them. Please tell me what country you are from so I can be sure to never go there.

Mr Epeen

The only thing to compensate here is for the time when the clock was stopped.

Clock time is what players pay for. If the clock stops, that's what is to be made up. Since the expansion is being delayed a day, that's compensation enough, folks will meet their deadlines (and returning players were not upto date on this ship change, so had to rush with remaps and more to get their skills finished in time. I had 40 days worth of skilling to meet it at 1am on June 4th. That's how close it is for some of the players).