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Do capsuleers sleep?

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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#21 - 2013-02-25 21:03:52 UTC
Faulx wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
I just wish that walking over to the bed presented you with an interaction object to log off...


Genius.... among other things that should have come with Incarna.


Lol That was perfect

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
MLG Morril
Fly By Night Brokerage
#22 - 2013-03-01 02:30:28 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Hannott Thanos wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
The capsule has redundancy measures to keep you from falling asleep in it. It'll pump SO MUCH caffeine into you. However, there are limits to the human body, such that at least once during every 24 hour period, you'll get at least 30 minutes or so of sleep. CONCORD mandates that this time period occurs every day between roughly 11:00 and 11:30 to keep terrible things from happening.

In later years tho, capsuleers seem to have been avoiding this CONCORD mandate, only sleeping down to, or less than, ten minutes.


Well, capsuleers do always try to push against the system, after all P




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Alexi Komanov
The Kronos Ritual
#23 - 2013-03-01 05:42:04 UTC
MLG Morril wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Hannott Thanos wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
The capsule has redundancy measures to keep you from falling asleep in it. It'll pump SO MUCH caffeine into you. However, there are limits to the human body, such that at least once during every 24 hour period, you'll get at least 30 minutes or so of sleep. CONCORD mandates that this time period occurs every day between roughly 11:00 and 11:30 to keep terrible things from happening.

In later years tho, capsuleers seem to have been avoiding this CONCORD mandate, only sleeping down to, or less than, ten minutes.


Well, capsuleers do always try to push against the system, after all P




Those are the ones that took the red pill.


The blue pill was the sleeping pill.
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#24 - 2013-04-05 03:42:12 UTC
This whole post just made me realize why WH junkies are so damn crazy

Without CONCORD to force sleep they just stay awake... Always looking into the void knowing someone is watching them. Shocked

Plus staying in that darn pod for months on end probably doesn't do well for ones health either

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
kukki Zhu
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#25 - 2013-04-05 06:55:33 UTC
Both bodies and consciousnesses of capsuleers require rest. There is no way to evade resting, lack of it would kill not only the clone, but the consciousness as well.
The only difference between mere humans and capsuleers is that capsuleers can afford to move to artificial bodies, thus extending their lifespans in this segment.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2013-04-10 02:06:30 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
The capsule has redundancy measures to keep you from falling asleep in it. It'll pump SO MUCH caffeine into you. However, there are limits to the human body, such that at least once during every 24 hour period, you'll get at least 30 minutes or so of sleep. CONCORD mandates that this time period occurs every day between roughly 11:00 and 11:30 to keep terrible things from happening.




So they finally worked DT into the backstory. You bastards. You bastards. Lol

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Arch1bald
Lightning Squad
Snuffed Out
#27 - 2013-04-18 15:46:17 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
I just wish that walking over to the bed presented you with an interaction object to log off...



Me want!

That and the ability to assassinate foke in stations.....xD


Absolutely genius!
Ramius Decimus
Daitengu Fleet
#28 - 2013-05-19 10:31:07 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:

This post by Falcon states that anything sub-supercapital doesn't have the proper equipment to allow a capsuleer to exit the pod in-flight. Hence why I asked if it's possible to turn off the "redundancy measures", since otherwise a capsuleer piloting a sub-supercapital ship is artificially limited from spending more than a few days away from a station.


Hmm, that's an inconsistancy, considering the pod gantry built into all starships was a special but not entirely uncommon modification to ships already heavily modified to accommodate capsuleers. Looks to me like CCP Falcon decided to just change set lore on his own whim (or either he simply didn't read into the canon)...

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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#29 - 2013-05-19 16:35:00 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
More importantly, are the sheep electric?


Someone has to support the Gallantean electric sheep market.
Naomi Hale
#30 - 2013-05-20 19:52:23 UTC
We sleep in those tiny bunks in the Captain's Quarters. That's what connects every Capsuleer in EVE... we all have a small single bed... in the game.

I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums.
nitzeo kan
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-05-28 11:33:51 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
The capsule has redundancy measures to keep you from falling asleep in it. It'll pump SO MUCH caffeine into you. However, there are limits to the human body, such that at least once during every 24 hour period, you'll get at least 30 minutes or so of sleep. CONCORD mandates that this time period occurs every day between roughly 11:00 and 11:30 to keep terrible things from happening.


lol that ^ is why i love this game you guys seem to able to come up with some lore behind almost everything in the game brilliant work :)
Axel Kurki
Aseyakone
#32 - 2013-05-28 19:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Axel Kurki
Ramius Decimus wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:

This post by Falcon states that anything sub-supercapital doesn't have the proper equipment to allow a capsuleer to exit the pod in-flight. Hence why I asked if it's possible to turn off the "redundancy measures", since otherwise a capsuleer piloting a sub-supercapital ship is artificially limited from spending more than a few days away from a station.


Hmm, that's an inconsistancy, considering the pod gantry built into all starships was a special but not entirely uncommon modification to ships already heavily modified to accommodate capsuleers. Looks to me like CCP Falcon decided to just change set lore on his own whim (or either he simply didn't read into the canon)...


Falcon mentioned on the linked post that "most vessels that are sub super-capital don't have the on board facilities to provide a place for capsuleers to decant". The negation of "most" is not "none", but "some". Therefore, we may assume that some vessels that are smaller than supercapitals do have the onboard facilities to provide a place for the controlling capsuleer to decant.

If we want to wave hands at the issue, I would assume that the vast majority of ships do dock regularly, which greatly reduces the need to have onboard facilities for something found on every station anyway. Docking regularly may also be considered a behaviour that should be reinforced, since this makes the mighty demigod Empyreans momentarily vulnerable.

The last part on the linked post, not being on a pod while in space, is valid, though. Especially if your ship does not carry bridge crew, it is just a sitting duck if you are not in a pod. Contrary to the ingame behaviour of entering captain's quarters, we probably have to assume that entering and leaving the pod (including attaching or detaching all the hardware) isn't instant, meaning that a capsuleer caught on board a ship but out of pod would be very quickly a dead capsuleer.

And one final addition on the topic: I would assume that it would be possible to sleep, even in-pod. While risky for your ship (in case you don't wake up in time to evade or fight back if you're being attacked) it would be safe for the capsuleer.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#33 - 2013-05-30 03:44:33 UTC
Axel Kurki wrote:

And one final addition on the topic: I would assume that it would be possible to sleep, even in-pod. While risky for your ship (in case you don't wake up in time to evade or fight back if you're being attacked) it would be safe for the capsuleer.

One would presume a stand-by bridge for non-capsuleer watchstanders, and one would further imagine that there's some kind of 'wake me up' button placed there.

Abusing the 'wake me up' button may result in a sudden vacuuming of the stand-by bridge. Cleanliness is important, you kow!

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Dirk Gentry
Van Diemen's Demise
Northern Coalition.
#34 - 2013-06-01 08:03:09 UTC
lol
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#35 - 2013-06-02 12:52:41 UTC
So if the NPC pirates actually wanted to hurt us, they could just seize that moment when *every* capsuleer simultaneously shuts of for some kip, floating in space in their ships with their POSs undefended. Sansha could be in and out of Jita in moments...

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
CCP Falcon
#36 - 2013-06-03 11:27:21 UTC

I think you should probably take CCP Eterne's comment as tongue in cheek rather than actual canon in this case. Blink

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Fener Iste
Deep Cover Operations Command
#37 - 2013-06-04 10:06:38 UTC
id like to think they sleep sometimes when you log off, or in downtime. a capsuleer definetly need sleep like a normal human being.

Wannabe outlaw.
Axel Kurki
Aseyakone
#38 - 2013-06-04 20:44:32 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

I think you should probably take CCP Eterne's comment as tongue in cheek rather than actual canon in this case. Blink

You mean that every word of a devpost shouldn't be analyzed for meanings and half-meanings, a potential threadnought in mind?

What is this!

...but yeah, it's a game. There's some wiggle-room, and I at least spend way more time offline than the daily fifteen minutes.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#39 - 2013-07-06 22:24:45 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
The capsule has redundancy measures to keep you from falling asleep in it. It'll pump SO MUCH caffeine into you. However, there are limits to the human body, such that at least once during every 24 hour period, you'll get at least 30 minutes or so of sleep. CONCORD mandates that this time period occurs every day between roughly 11:00 and 11:30 to keep terrible things from happening.


Is it possible to turn off these redundancy measures? Since to my understanding only larger capital ships allow capsuleers to exit their pod in-flight, so anything smaller would have to dock once a day (or at least once every few days) if they can't sleep properly while inside the pod.


Any ship equipped with the cross-capsule gantry can do that - not sure exactly what ships it's limited to, but... vOv

Also, getting out of your capsule works wonders for bypassing stuff like that.

I'd take a warm bed over a bunch of goop any day (or night, as it were).


This post by Falcon states that anything sub-supercapital doesn't have the proper equipment to allow a capsuleer to exit the pod in-flight. Hence why I asked if it's possible to turn off the "redundancy measures", since otherwise a capsuleer piloting a sub-supercapital ship is artificially limited from spending more than a few days away from a station.



Some people have already covered this.

But also, in the prime fiction (Empyrean Age and Templar one) you have the Significance, a research vessel around a kilometre long (Battleship sized) which is a cross-capsule variant.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Med Lacroix
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2013-07-06 22:31:28 UTC
Velarra wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
The capsule has redundancy measures to keep you from falling asleep in it. It'll pump SO MUCH caffeine into you. However, there are limits to the human body, such that at least once during every 24 hour period, you'll get at least 30 minutes or so of sleep. CONCORD mandates that this time period occurs every day between roughly 11:00 and 11:30 to keep terrible things from happening.


Do capsuleers dream during this mandated period?

Are sheep involved?


I just count my Minnie slaves. Works quicker, and makes me fall asleep smiling.
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