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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#41 - 2013-06-02 05:26:40 UTC
Nephilims Eyes wrote:
[quote=Astrid Stjerna]

Well if I remember the story right (and it has been nearly 10 years since I read it). The collapse on New Edens side was due to the loss of resources and infrastructure the original planets provided. Without it, the planets were incapable of supporting themselves and declined. So I see no reason as to why the same would have happened on the Sol side if they were the source of everything, that means they had everything and offloaded a good amount of population clogging down the system before the gate collapse.


Actually, if you look at how they are currently telling the story, you get the impression that the eve gate collapse resulting in the degradation of tech and knowledge had less to do with losing contact with supplies from Earth but with the resulting shock wave wrecking devastation.

Now I need to re-read some old lore...

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#42 - 2013-06-02 05:29:23 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
[quote=Zak Breen]
A companion theory is also, that any race intelligent enough to NOT off itself in some galactic-level self-genocide, then they would most likely also be smart enough to realize 99% of the toehr raes out there WOULD off tehmselves (but be more likely to band together to off any races "different" first) intelligent life being as self-destructive as it is.


You should read "Have Space Suit will Travel" by Heinlein. Your theory groves nicely with this book.

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Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-06-02 06:16:28 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Wouldn't Earth be far, far more advanced than even the Jove? IIRC EVE takes place after a complete technological collapse and reconstruction, millenia after the eve gate thing. I'm pretty sure you'd know immediately if a wormhole took you back to Sol.


Jove was more advanced then Earth was prior to the gate. Granted Jove's limited numbers could effect their advancement, but also Earth seemed to be in a power struggle prior to the Exodus, which probably lead to a civil war.

At least that's what I remember of the backstory.



The Jovian's were the most technically inferior humans to come through the evegate and only survived the collapse so well because they used generational ships to cyro sleep during the travel to the Heaven constellation. They and their "keepers" while in cryo rebuilt virtually untouched after the collapse.

But I don't see it opening fully again or permitting access after all the Eidolon battleship was heavily damaged all crew dead on its return back a few years ago Book 1. And in the 2nd or third book it mentions that the evegate is angry and not what it appears.

Jove have limited numbers like the sleepers because they are the same race they were so to speak two of three known castes to travel in the jovian motherships.

But I doubt we will see the eve gate opening or the wormhole. Their being the wormhole and the eve gate structure which was built around the wormhole to function as a large stargate. They knew the original wormhole would collapse but the evegate would have continued to allow passage.

The evegate structure is still there but other then the novels its not being used or explored ingame.
Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-06-02 06:39:03 UTC
You guys didn't hear? Earth turned in to a bunch of sparkly vampires and forgot how to use space craft. I think it's called World of Darkness or something :P
SPYDER245
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#45 - 2013-06-02 06:40:20 UTC  |  Edited by: SPYDER245
GreenSeed wrote:
also, protip for CCP, Acquire Egosoft.


nah, they would ruin the best spacesim ever made. The X / ELITE series should remain as it is - an elite game made by elite programmers. Can you imagine the boron interceptor nerfed at the whim of a goon ?
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-06-02 06:48:28 UTC
mattstorms360 wrote:
A question to those who under stand it. Would it be possible for a wormhole in New Eden to lead to the solar system Earth is in? And if you could, can you tell me why or why not?



well assuming earth technology has continued to advance uninterupted, some kid would fire his tech level 47 laser-tag gun through the wormhole, and accidentally our whole galaxy...

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-06-02 07:20:24 UTC
Earth - if it's still around, would be more powerful than the Jove. You better hope they never find a way to reach New Eden.
I'm sure they would want to reclaim "their" colonies. Arrow
killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-06-02 07:34:09 UTC
Question; Do the peoples of EVE even still remember there earth heritage or has that become myth and legend ?

:)
Johnny Uma
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-06-02 07:38:13 UTC
killorbekilled TBE wrote:
Question; Do the peoples of EVE even still remember there earth heritage or has that become myth and legend ?


It's been 20,000 years, nobody knows who, what, or where we came from. However, the denizens of new eden have assumed that the EvE gate was used by humanities ancestors. But most of it is myth and legends.
Johnny Uma
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-06-02 07:58:05 UTC
I wonder about that technology thing. My guess is that Eden is AT LEAST 18,834 years behind The Milky Way. An example is that warp drive technology was originally invented around AD 4224 and was not rediscovered (or reinvented) again until the Amarr in AD 23058.

They're probably hyper advanced, or hell, they could have blown themselves back to the sticks and stones era. THEY probably have forgotten about the colonies or written them down as all dead in the history books. There's just too many unknowns in this equation.

My question(s) are:

A. What have The Milky Way inhabitants been doing for 20,000 since the wormhole closed? Why have the same circumstances for the original wormhole to open not repeated themselves in 20k+ years, or maybe they did to a different galaxy. Thirdly, I'm assuming based on their lack of appearance in Eden that they don't have the level of inter-stellar travel to travel many galaxies over.

B. Why was it in the 74 years the wormhole was open that we were sending expeditions and colonies into New Eden, no one was like "hey I'm going to use this badass, superior technology to figure out where, and what galaxy exactly this wormhole spits out at, in with relation to home, and mark it on a map, so if something happens we'll know what's up" Or perhaps they did, and something happened Milky Way side to account for 20,000+ years of silence.
killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-06-02 08:17:05 UTC
Johnny Uma wrote:
killorbekilled TBE wrote:
Question; Do the peoples of EVE even still remember there earth heritage or has that become myth and legend ?


It's been 20,000 years, nobody knows who, what, or where we came from. However, the denizens of new eden have assumed that the EvE gate was used by humanities ancestors. But most of it is myth and legends.


Thank you

I thought as much the 4 races i believe went through there own dark age's which would explain there diluted perceived heritage.

:)
Franky Sugaz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-06-02 08:34:22 UTC
possiblem scenarios:

a) humanity has survived in a similare way of jovians, their numbers have shrinked to a mere fraction but they are 20000 year more advanced than eve, they don't actually care about those long lost colonies.
b) they have colonized new worlds in other galaxies expanded even more and now are slowly coming torward eve space with 20000 year of continuos developing.
c) humanity has gone extinct
d) other colonization mission where lunched and a certain point they come in contact with hostile lifeforms, they are now at war and the aliens seek every human settlement to kill them, eventually their war will involve EvE races.
e) humanity has been assimilated by Borgs.
f) ????
Dyniss
KarmaFleet University
#53 - 2013-06-02 08:53:28 UTC
I thought the Evegate was destroyed? I mean, I went to the system and nothing was there except a barren world. I assume you mean on the Sol side the gate was still standing (so to speak). Because if that's the case wouldn't Earth eventually wonder why all communication and supplies were for some odd reason instantly cut off? I mean I would wonder what's up if for some reason they colonies I was receiving supplies from suddenly went silent. Wouldn't you?
Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises
#54 - 2013-06-02 09:13:14 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
I'm sure they would want to reclaim "their" colonies. Arrow


Wouldn't that be the plot to Firefly? Does that mean we'd get to be Space Cowboy's too? Cool

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Johnny Uma
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-06-02 09:13:35 UTC
Dyniss wrote:
I thought the Evegate was destroyed? I mean, I went to the system and nothing was there except a barren world. I assume you mean on the Sol side the gate was still standing (so to speak). Because if that's the case wouldn't Earth eventually wonder why all communication and supplies were for some odd reason instantly cut off? I mean I would wonder what's up if for some reason they colonies I was receiving supplies from suddenly went silent. Wouldn't you?


Now don't quote me on this, but I'm like 92% sure that the Earth side knew, probably watched the wormhole close but couldn't do anything about it.


also:

CCP Falcon wrote:
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

Blink
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#56 - 2013-06-02 09:15:54 UTC
Melissa Turner wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

Blink





can anyone pass me a link to read up on all this lore cause now im completely thrown off.


It's in the history.Humans in the Milky Way formed a vast empire across the stars colonizing many planets before the Eve Gate was discovered
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#57 - 2013-06-02 09:16:26 UTC
Wormhole to Earth will have the same chance to happen as a wormhole to Azeroth, please let there be a wormhole to Azeroth.
Dimple Dallocort
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-06-02 09:20:04 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Wouldn't Earth be far, far more advanced than even the Jove? IIRC EVE takes place after a complete technological collapse and reconstruction, millenia after the eve gate thing. I'm pretty sure you'd know immediately if a wormhole took you back to Sol.


Not necessarily. There are some theories out there that once intelligent life reaches a certain point it declines and eventually goes extinct. The reason why we can't seem to find any out there isn't because there is none - it's because intelligent societies likely snuff themselves out. Humans - well, Homo sapien sapiens, us - have only been around for a mere 200,000 years or so. The question is how long do societies such as ours last?



sounds like new age poppy ****
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-06-02 10:15:29 UTC
Minmat Sebtin wrote:
Melissa Turner wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Also, just FYI, the EVE Gate didn't link New Eden with Sol.

Blink





can anyone pass me a link to read up on all this lore cause now im completely thrown off.


The old eve intro

It is implied that humanity expanded throughout the galaxy, or at least as far as they could with stargates. Then humanity turned on each other until the discovery of the eve wormhole. I think it is safe to assume that those back in the milky way resumed fighting for what was left.

Yep. I wonder what can we find if it reopen now, after tousands of years...
Will it be an empty space because they're finally killed each other.
Or there's still have some humans, who will enter our new eden and take it from us, wiping out the empires, including the Concord and the Jovians...
CCP is very optimistic about the future of humanity Roll

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Dimple Dallocort
Doomheim
#60 - 2013-06-02 10:30:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dimple Dallocort
I'm sure if the worm hole opened for me some kind of time travel mechanic would kick in throwing me on a wild ride back to 2013!

I'm that luckyBig smile