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Caldari Frigate PvP
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Fuzeu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-01 00:53:12 UTC
Starting out in PvP in Caldari Frigates, and looking loadout suggestions; But read below first!!

I am only looking for fits for Condor and Kestrel. I dont want to hear about the Merlin or other turret based ships as i am well along the missile skill tree(Level 5 Rockets, Level 3 in every support skill with level 4 before the end of the coming month). And NO i will not consider changing my mind.

Also keep in mind that this is NOT for solo pvp, so loadouts meant for 1v1 skirmishes with other frigates are useless to me. As are loadouts using light missiles rather than rockets.

No trolling please.
Rengerel en Distel
#2 - 2013-06-01 01:06:42 UTC
http://www.evealtruist.com/2012/10/what-to-fit-slasher-and-condor.html

that's the first link i get googling "condor small gang fits" ... not sure if much has changed since, but might get you a starting point.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-01 01:10:06 UTC
The Hawk is one of the best pvp frigate in the game for encountering other frigates it eats Dramiels for a living.

Ligth missiles are like railguns, they are made to be put onto long range ships that can Kite and point there enemy from afar from all i know.

So you are training for T2 rockets without being able to fly a Hawk?...... or any T2 ships from my awesome mind reading skills i can tell, i am here to inform you that T2 anything in the missile class sucks and you should consider training it last, train all support skills level 4 - 5...
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#4 - 2013-06-01 01:16:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia
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Fuzeu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-01 01:21:22 UTC
Yeah i'm pretty sure i said Condor/Kestrel and no Light Missiles. Kthxbye.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#6 - 2013-06-01 01:29:59 UTC
Fuzeu wrote:
Yeah i'm pretty sure i said Condor/Kestrel and no Light Missiles. Kthxbye.


And I posted a rocket fit kestrel. I also offered a sniper showing that light missiles are worth it. Obviously, you don't want to read.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#7 - 2013-06-01 02:28:38 UTC
OP asks for advice then gives all the limitations of the specific ships/fits he's looking at.

LOL

looks like you don't want advice but someone to blow fluff at you and say what you are currently doing is the best way to do things.

Take the advice given with a bit of humility and you'll get much more out of questions like these.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#8 - 2013-06-01 05:57:37 UTC
>OP says he's well along the missile skill tree
>only has IIIs in support skills and Rockets at V
>wut

Also if you didn't reply to people like an asshat you'd get better responses.

Here, have a Vengeance fit. It uses rockets, not light missiles!

[Vengeance, Dual Rep SAAR/C-type]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Centii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 100

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Anti-Thermic Pump I
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#9 - 2013-06-01 06:44:03 UTC
OP is a tool, don't bother helping him.
Fuzeu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-01 13:16:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Fuzeu
I can sense the maturity in the air [sarcasm]. When someone asks a question and says that they dont want a particular line of information; you dont respond with that line of information and expect to get a positive response. Doing so proves how poor of judgement you have.

Simply put, i dont have time to read through useless posts offering information that i dont need or want. You had the time to post a response to my question; you may as well have answered with useful information instead of wasting both of our time.

Edit: A good example of a proper response to a question is post #2. Thanks.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#11 - 2013-06-01 13:30:07 UTC
Fuzeu wrote:
Doing so proves how poor of judgement you have.

Ironic, considering you think people are here for your amusement. Show some gratitude, get over yourself and stop being a jerk. No one owes you anything.

Oh god.
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#12 - 2013-06-01 13:30:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cable Udan
Fuzeu wrote:
I can sense the maturity in the air [sarcasm]. When someone asks a question and says that they dont want a particular line of information; you dont respond with that line of information and expect to get a positive response. Doing so proves how poor of judgement you have.

Simply put, i dont have time to read through useless posts offering information that i dont need or want. You had the time to post a response to my question; you may as well have answered with useful information instead of wasting both of our time.

Edit: A good example of a proper response to a question is post #2. Thanks.


Art thou enraged, sibling?
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#13 - 2013-06-01 14:08:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Garviel Tarrant
Edit: Noticed OP being a **** above so i take back my advice.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Kubla-Kahn
Purple Gang
#14 - 2013-06-01 14:59:07 UTC
OP, first rule in Eve, don't be a douche on the forums - people here make a living of being a far bigger Dicks than you can even aspire to.

Second rule of Eve, if you think that shoehorning yourself into a "I fly this, don't tell me its bad or I'm bad", go back to rule #1 and consdier that others here might have more experience and thus provide you real tested valuable advice.

That said, if you are set on Rockets and those ships - only consider the Kessy - Condor is a range based light missile ship and will die horribly up close with Rocets.

The Kessy can work pretty well up close with various configs, but my favorite is;

Highs - Rockets

Mids - AB/MWD (your choice depending on location and tactic), scram, 2 webs or web/TD

Lows - 200mm plate, DCU

Rigs - Bay loading ACC, Calf cat

Next he will say, "don't tell me to fit armor, I only fit shields"

Otherwise, use the Condor with Light missiles and kite out at range like everyone else does successfully.
Fuzeu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-06-02 00:46:59 UTC
Kiting does not work for this gang scheme primarily; i am choosing to use Condor/Kestrel despite the existence of better ships because i do not have time to change my weapon specialization(i.e adding projectile weapons to my area of expertise)because i am 'fitting' this into my PVE focus as a sort of favor.

@Kubla Why would i say no armor? It wasn't in the original post, pointing out that i didn't want it. I asked for specifics because i already KNOW for a FACT that their are effective brawler builds for these two ships using rockets. I only came to these forums to get THOSE loadouts; not an insulting suggestion that i am an idiot for not using a hawk or that i should dump what i am doing and use light missiles. If i needed that kind of advice a google search brings up hundreds of those kinds of comments. Why would i ask for it on here.

Bottom line: Your all trolls.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#16 - 2013-06-02 01:11:04 UTC
Fuzeu wrote:
Kiting does not work for this gang scheme primarily; i am choosing to use Condor/Kestrel despite the existence of better ships because i do not have time to change my weapon specialization(i.e adding projectile weapons to my area of expertise)because i am 'fitting' this into my PVE focus as a sort of favor.

@Kubla Why would i say no armor? It wasn't in the original post, pointing out that i didn't want it. I asked for specifics because i already KNOW for a FACT that their are effective brawler builds for these two ships using rockets. I only came to these forums to get THOSE loadouts; not an insulting suggestion that i am an idiot for not using a hawk or that i should dump what i am doing and use light missiles. If i needed that kind of advice a google search brings up hundreds of those kinds of comments. Why would i ask for it on here.

Bottom line: Your all trolls.



I posted a perfectly good rocket kestrel fit with decent tank and high damage. Too bad you could bother to read more than a sentence or two. Given your general attitude, you must be such a joy to fly with in a gang. Do you complain as much to them when they offer advice or have you already alienated them so much they refused to help? Either good luck, you'll need it.
Fuzeu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-02 01:31:50 UTC
Yes you posted a perfectly fine rocket fit, after you posted a light missile fit which i specifically asked not to receive. Why would i read your post when the first thing you respond with is something i stated i didn't want? You may have all day and night to waste on forum posts and video games; but i do not. And with that i bid you adeu; i made my own fit no thanks to eve community forums(as expected).
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2013-06-02 01:42:25 UTC
You have to be one of the single most unpleasant people i've seen post on these forums..

Well done, that is actually quite an achievement.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#19 - 2013-06-02 01:46:50 UTC
Fuzeu wrote:
Yes you posted a perfectly fine rocket fit, after you posted a light missile fit which i specifically asked not to receive. Why would i read your post when the first thing you respond with is something i stated i didn't want? You may have all day and night to waste on forum posts and video games; but i do not. And with that i bid you adeu; i made my own fit no thanks to eve community forums(as expected).


Good for you, in future just make fits/get advice on your own and don't bother posting on these forums if you're going to act like a massive tool, nobody wants you here just as much as you don't want to be here. It'll be doing everyone a favor including yourself.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#20 - 2013-06-02 05:29:16 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
You have to be one of the single most unpleasant people i've seen post on these forums..

Well done, that is actually quite an achievement.


DAMN! I'm gonna have to try harder to get that trophy back now that Garv has given it to this numbnutz!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
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