Missions & Complexes

Vanguards will be your best place to start since it doesn't require broadcasts or any logi fcing. You will nearly always have 2 logis, if you are new to flying logi you should announce it to the other logi, so he can adjust a bit. A good logi in a ok fleet can nearly do it alone, so don't worry this much if not everything is done 100% right at the start.

Watch list setup:

Logis always on top(you can drag the name up in the watch list), the reason for this is that you see instantly if it disconnects or is not on grid and can adjust/instantly point it out to the FC on voice/chat.

How to use reps:

- if the target is already under 80% all at once
- if the target is before that stagger reps(1-2s delays between them) to smooth out damage spikes and the cap hit if you fly a scimi/oni
- once the target is stable and at full health, remove reps one by one, by this you will always have reps that are not stuck in a cycle and can react quickly, it is also important if you fly a oni/scimi to prevent you from capping out
- make sure you stop using more than 1-2 reps once the FC tells you to align in a Oni/scimi, to prevent you from being low on cap once the warp starts and getting capped out by it
- use heat as soon as you feel the other logi(s) is slacking or a target is more squishy than it should be, be warned, you need to watch your reps, if they burn out you will be useless for your gang

Check list before jumping into a site:

- Update the watch list(right click on the logi and dps squad and click add squad members to watch list). Most of the FCs announce ship changes before or during the sites, but sometimes people make mistakes. Since you lock and rep mostly by watch list, you can quickly fall into a situation where you become basically helpless without it. People when in stress make mistakes and shouting "need reps" or "help" on coms instead of using the broadcast or link up in fleet chat to give a way to get quick lock on them instead looking at the grid what ship gets damage/is not locked or spending a few seconds to do a watch list update.

- Cap chain(Logi 4/5 adjustments to) or tracking links/remote sensor booster use should be sorted out

- the other Logi(s) should be on grid and not afk, in most gangs you simply put a "L" into the fleet chat as logi to confirm that you are not afk once you land on grid

- if you are late on the gate or did fall behind during warping between the sites always make a 30 degree scan on the site, to confirm your gang is in it, before you jump. The issue is not so much that you can lose your logi(you can easily get out if you are quick and didn't jump in a nco) but losing 60-90s to get to the right site what can royally **** your gang that might be stuck in another site, leaving the other logi in a situation where he got to do everything on his own and also can die.

Vanguards:

Once on grid, lock up everything from your watch list, since grid lag from the warpin can make your target unlock able at start, repeat this every few seconds, till you have everything locked. Put up 3 reps on the first ship that gets damage, after this, sort out cap chain, then sensor or tracking links. Now you have around 20s till agro changes, that can be used to put out RR drones or damage drones and assist them, lock up ships you still miss and set 2,5km orbit on a anker or any BS(preferable one with cap transfer and or RR, so you are always close enough if you have a logi disconnect). If you see the other Logi disconnecting, don't panic, tell it the FC in voice or chat and broadcast yourself as RR target, so BS with RR can lock you up quickly and request broadcasting, so any BS with RR that didn't set up the watch list can react(if you have 1-2 RR for you and to help you out with the damage on other hulls it isn't a big issue).

If you do ore drops in NMCs, I general prefer a AB and start moving a few seconds before the last wave spawns, don't worry slipping out of cap transfer range. You can still use 2-3 reps even without cap chains and the wave is light on the damage.

Assaults:

You will most likely got a logi FC at this point, that will handle it a bit different, but her is what I did as Logi FC:

We used 3 oneiros(scimis for shield) and 2 Guardian(Basilisks for shield), you keep the logis on top of your watch list. Guardians should be heavily tanked, so the Oni don't have to keep permanent lock on them(you lock them up as they start flashing on the watch list) and only lock other onis. Guardians take BS in the watchlist, Oni take T3 and other smaller hulls in the watch list, so you can be sure you have a logi keeping a eye on every hull all the time. If a BS takes heavy damage without requesting reps guardians rebroadcast it for Onis, Onis can handle the smaller hulls on her own, no broadcasts needed.

By this a Oneiros got 5-8 free slots to lock targets and a Guardian 8-9, making tracking link/RSB use and cap chaining while shuffling around the locks a lot easier and preventing situations where late posters or no posters become a issue. You should all the time have at least one free target slot to lock up a logi or emergency quick without wasting 3-5s to unlock a target first.

While you can run the sites without a Logi FC, it is generally a good thing if you have one, to smooth out the hole thing, till it becomes like VGs where people rarely have to post herself and you don't lock/unlock every few seconds. The logi FC should fly a Basi/Guardian because he can also broadcast, and got the BS on the watch list. If the gang doesn't use a Logi FC, you should make sure to have the anker on the watch list or at least memorize the name and ship type, so you can find him easy on the grid after warpins.

Thanks for interesting post / article! Nice timing considering fleets are getting many new pilots in June.

Small addition. Descent into non-preloaded TCRC HQ site is the most complicated experience for logis. First few waves spawn one by one and attack new ships resulting in 3+ ships receiving damage at the same time. Avoid to use more than one repper on each ship during these spawns (unless you see ship goes down). When you see target's shield goes up - start to turn off reppers. It will replenish your capacitor and you'll be ready to start repairs immediately after next broadcast. Try to keep at least 2 reppers free because after certain amount of time (1 minute?) all spawned waves - full room - switch onto single target and that ship will pop in seconds unless logis have idle reppers available immediately. It happens with 4th or 5th target. Be ready to put / switch all 4 reppers onto that "alpha ship" + watch closely following broadcasts because other logis may miss them while being distracted / frightened with amount of incoming DPS (~17k) and broadcasts for cap.

Also NRF HQ sites are somewhat tricky: after few easy waves last spawn has a lot of battleships and massive DPS output. At this point logis usually trying to not to fall asleep and may miss broadcast if LC/FC did not specifically warn them. Be ready to overrep / broadcast your (dying) target.

Why many new pilots?

Specifically for Armour pilots in Vanguards:

1. Watch for notifications of webs/scram. If you see the same person getting webbed/scrammed by 5 different rats, that person is about to take agro and you should start staggering your reps on that person.
2. Turn ALL of your reppers off when the last rat dies and a new wave spawns. This gives you 4 recharged reps ready to go when someone starts taking damage, instead of having to wait the 2-3 seconds for the current cycles to finish.
3. Always stagger your reps. With the amount of over-tank I see in armour gangs, you will NEVER need all 4 reps to hit instantly, and if you're following steps 1 and 2, you should have plenty of time to get it setup on the target taking damage.

Excellent thread

Core Skills:

Logistics 5
One of the few skills in eve that completely change the options you have, once on 5. A logi 5 Guardian\Basilisk can cap other hulls up and a logi 5 Oni\Scimi can fit tracking links to improve the performance of dps hulls.

Energy Management \ Energy Systems Operation 5
Vastly improves the cap on your logistic and any other hull.

Hull Upgrades / Mechanics 5
Core skills that give you more hull and armor, even if it is not your tanking layer, the extra buffer can help and the skills are useful on any kind of hull.

Shield Operation / Shield Management 5
Core skills that give you more shield and quicker shield recharge, even as a armor logi, the extra buffer and the better recharge can be useful and it works with any hull you fly.

Remote Armor Repair / Shield Emission Systems 5
Vastly reduces the capacitor need of your remote repair modules, crucial for Oneiros and Scimitar.

Energy Emission Systems 4
For using a Basilisk or Guardian effective, it also helps to generate cap while chaining between dps hulls and prevents you from getting drained out when you cap chain with a logi(when you fit a T2 for the range while the logi uses a meta 4 for the fitting).

Engineering \ Electronics 5
Power grid and CPU are something you can't have enough and the major limiter of most logistic fittings(most logistics fit T2 power grid rigs).

Targeting 5 / Multitasking 3
With this you can lock 10 targets in your logistic, what makes live a lot easier in Vanguards. Flying in HQ/Assault fleets without that is a nightmare, since you will constantly unlock and relock targets.

Sensor Linking 4
Lets you fit T2 tracking links and remote sensor boosters and reduces her cap use by 20%, what is huge since they are a constant cap drain, even while your remote rep modules are not in use.

Shield Upgrades 4
Reduces the power grid use for shield extenders, since power grid is always short, it will help a lot(I got it to 5 for a few fittings).

Energy Grid Upgrades 5
Reduces the CPU use of PDUs and reactor controls, it also allows you to use the T2 RCU what is used in a few logi fittings(can by worked around by using a faction one).

Armor Compensation Skills 5
Essential on most armor logis that use membranes or platings for her tank.

Navigation Skills
There are various navigation skills that provide more speed(what improves your survivability) or vastly reduce the cap use of AB/MWD on your logi, what further improves your run time. You should get them up at least to 4. Armor Honeycombing 4 also helps a lot with the speed if you often fly armor logistics.

Good to have:

Remote Armor Repair Systems / Remote Hull Repair Systems 3
Even if you don't fly armor logis, it is generally a good idea to carry a few medium ones in your dps/logi to fix up ships that got armor/structure damage between sites(refit at a Orca or at station), just let a dps ship fit 1-2 cap transfers and rep them up.

Thermodynamics 5
Longer overheating can be very useful in some situations(it can vastly improve your tank or rr ability's), it also saves you ISK on a daily basis with dps hulls(where you overheat webs and guns a lot) and reduces the time frame you need for repairing them(since they will take less damage, meaning less damage to fix after overheating).

Nanite Operation 4
Reduces the amount of nanite paste you need to repair your modules, what saves quite a bit of ISK.

Nanite Interfacing 4
It vastly helps to repair your modules quickly between sites or pockets, it is even more important than Nanite Operation, since you can't use your module while you repair it, so getting it fixed quick is quite important in a logi.

Cybernetics 5
Gives you access to a lot of good implants and the pirate implant sets.

Repair Drone Operation 5
A full wing of T2 logistic drones with the skill at 5 reps around 30% more than a full wing with T1 logistic drones at skill level 4, the T2 drones also travel a lot quicker between targets on the grid(very good in HQs) or to pull them back in.

Sensor Linking 5
This one is often overlooked, if you use 4 or 5 tracking links it can give 20-50% more runtime, since it reduces the constant cap drain on your fitting.

Shield Rigging 5
This one further increases the survivability of most logi fittings and also dps fittings that use shield rigs by reducing her signature.

Jury Rigging 4
Lets you fit T2 powergrid and cap rig's, that are often used on logis on your own hull or rig hulls for other people.

Fuel Conversation / High Speed Manoeuvring 5
Depending on the fitting(ab/mwd) it saves a lot of cap in HQ fittings.

Acceleration Control 5
A very useful skill, not just for logi but every fitting with a prop mod, since it increases speed and reduces the damage you take.

Multitasking 5
It is a very useful skill if you run dps heavy for VGs or Assault/HQ since it provides 2 extra targeting slots in combination with a signal amplifier, meaning less shuffling targets around, especially on a Scimitar or Oneiros, where you will have 3-5 targets permanently locked to give out the links.

Leadership 4/5
You need it to pass the bonuses of links to your squad, even when other logi pilots are often squad leaders, it is good if you have it in case of a logi disconnect and the FC simply swapping a random logi into the squad command role to make the bonuses work again. Also getting the other basic leadership skills at least to 3 can be done relative quick and help a lot if you happen to fill the position.

Most fleets rather use a separate small hacking ship or the blockade runner that does the ore drop for the hacking. However it is also useful for exploration so the SP are not really wasted and it you often do it it might be a good idea.

Thank you for the time & effort that you have put into this thread & your most recent reply especially.
I appreciate it immensely & I'm sure others will too.

Surprised I didn't know anyone was still using this tactic.