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what am i doing wrong solo roam?
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Dwyn Nudd
SaltCannon
#1 - 2013-06-01 00:48:53 UTC
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#2 - 2013-06-01 00:58:31 UTC
If you're in faction warfare space, use the plexes to find fights. Plexes help sort out the pilots as well into your desired engagement ranges and non-faction war players can enter the plexes as well. Only frigates are allowed in novices, t2 frigs/dessies and down in smalls, t2 cruiser down in mediums, and anything in a large. Usually when looking for a fight, I'll go into a novice and most times a neutral or war target will show up to fight within 5-10 minutes. No gates guns to worry about, nothing. And the fact that they have to activate an acceleration gate gives you time to bail should it be a blob.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#3 - 2013-06-01 01:02:44 UTC
For a beginner, here are the areas you are most likely to find solo/small gang pvp in eve low sec.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Caldari_VS_Gallente#kills24

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Amarr_VS_Minmatar#kills24

You will find many people who you can shoot at gates, though they will probably be more experiences/skilled than you.

Also there are FW plexes that you can scan down with you on board scanner to spawn them, or d-scan to locate targets already in spawned plexes.

There is no shortage of targets in these areas, though in both of those warzones there are hot spots of activity.
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#4 - 2013-06-01 01:09:37 UTC
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


In addition to the plexes mentioned above you should also probably look for folks doing things in belts such as ratting or mining or in scannable anomolies (those sites you can scan without probes with your on board scanner). Realistically you wont find folks doing things like this in every system or even in most systems but if you are roaming around sooner or later you will find someone out in space who is probably in one of these. This is where you might find something expensive and shiny which you can kill with something small and cheap. Someone who is ratting or running an anom might already be tanking a bunch of npc rats when you land on them and your frigate damage might be enough to put them over the edge. Or perhaps you can hold them long enough for friends to arrive. Either way results in happiness for you and tears for them.
Dwyn Nudd
SaltCannon
#5 - 2013-06-01 02:04:44 UTC
thanks for the tips guys ill try them out.
James 420
EVE Corporation 98188875
#6 - 2013-06-01 05:56:44 UTC
What you are doing wrong is going solo, CCP hate solo pvp for some reason (????) so just bring more dudes and if you have more dps than the other gang you win.
Join a fw corp, don't solo if you don't have perfect skills for the ship tier you are flying (so you don't have to lower the number of targets you can engage).

Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-06-01 11:29:56 UTC
Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-06-01 14:05:13 UTC
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

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James 420
EVE Corporation 98188875
#9 - 2013-06-01 14:23:42 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

Like I said if he has maxed skills for the ship tier he fly (which I doubt) and good support skills he might get like 30% of fair fights, which is "viable" but why bother?
Funny because most fw solo pvp heroes are just killing, most of the time, less than a year/6 months old characters or lp farmers, gee I wonder why? 3l!t3 s0l0 pVp iS vi4bl3 u b4d i U d0n7 4gr33

Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-01 15:29:28 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Xander Det89
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#11 - 2013-06-01 16:25:46 UTC
Don't know what you fly, but if you're minmatar get a dualprop fleet stabber (will probably want 1 nano after odyssey launch) and you'll be able to go wherever you want until you find a choice frig/dessie to nail. It'll need the nano so it can align/warp in unlockable time when you're out their running past gate camps or even in null a fast turnaround is good when you drop in a bubble. It's done well for me... albeit only a done a few trips out but didn't really feel much in danger even when being chased by full gangs with smart tackle, can't play EVE atm while out in Kenya :P
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2013-06-01 19:28:24 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003.


Because pvping for fun is totally a silly idea right?

As for James your opinion is invalid until you start posting with your main.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-01 21:13:32 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003.


Because pvping for fun is totally a silly idea right?

Fun is fine. Claiming throw away frig or dessie consentual pvp means solo in EvE is alive and well is not though. You can solo in a cruiser and up but the odds your coming home in a pod is about 50/50 cruiser with the odds increasing as the hull gets larger so its not a viable career path in EvE.

To put it in perspective if missions / incursions / plexes / WH or whatever else people in game use to make isk had the same odds of ship destruction they would not be considered viable careers.



CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#14 - 2013-06-01 22:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: The Djego
Dwyn Nudd wrote:
Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???


Fly something that can take out targets under sentry gun agro, you know like most low sec pirates do?

Choosing a hull(any kind of BC, some HACs or quicker BS like the nano pest) and a fitting that gives you the ability to engage under sentry agro condition's increases your chances to get a fight in low sec a lot and also attract some more attention, leading to more fights than if you fly around in a frig or destroyer.

It is actually a lot less hard as it sounds, since most people that hug gates are also pretty bad and easily killable, even with the 300 DPS penalty against you.

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Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-06-01 22:30:06 UTC
Best bet is to use fw plexes as said above cruisers on down is fine.

For null there's a couple viable bc's if you like flying those (learning to navigate and when to engage will take practice though).

BS's tend to be to slow for solo. Back in the day they were viable but the dps smaller hulls do has gone up so much no real point in flying one solo right now.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#16 - 2013-06-01 22:49:12 UTC
Solo is far from dead and FW space is the place it is most active in!

Ignore all the bad claiming otherwise. You don't need anywhere near max skills or expensive ships or any of that **** to have fun AND be viable.

Check out any of the FW/pirate blogs and see how they have been doing this stuff for years. The metagame changes in time but you just adapt and keep on having fun. This is EVE you play it YOUR way not some bittervet's who stuck in their ways and don't have the ability to overcome problems so they just crap up the forums putting off the newer players from going out and just trying stuff!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-06-02 00:04:36 UTC
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#18 - 2013-06-02 00:48:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


LOL thanks for proving my bittervet syndrome perfectly Big smile

Now for anyone who actually thinks the above is true....really you need a viagra shot to the eye's so you can take a good long hard look at yourselves and stop taking a game too seriously!

For reference I can fly all the shiney ships I want but I get just as much enjoyment from fighting in lowley T1 frigs where actual player skill is a larger factor in the engagement than me spend 2-3x more isk than my opponent so I can chestbeat about how '1337' I'm at a game. Roll

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#19 - 2013-06-02 01:40:44 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec..

Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main.

As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones.

(Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore)

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Klu Rizen
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-02 02:54:30 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Solo is far from dead and FW space is the place it is most active in!

Ignore all the bad claiming otherwise. You don't need anywhere near max skills or expensive ships or any of that **** to have fun AND be viable.

Check out any of the FW/pirate blogs and see how they have been doing this stuff for years. The metagame changes in time but you just adapt and keep on having fun. This is EVE you play it YOUR way not some bittervet's who stuck in their ways and don't have the ability to overcome problems so they just crap up the forums putting off the newer players from going out and just trying stuff!


Speaking of blogs, I'm a big fan of the "know your enemy" ones (google it with eve appended). Just know what ships can win over others, based on armor vs shield, range, etc. and know when to run!
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