EVE General Discussion

I had the same issue earlier in the thread, a real what moment.

He's not a native English speaker either, but really needs to improve if he wants to get his point across.

Edit: I read it a few times, I think he's looking down at you from his high moral horse. He thinks your a lower species, now isn't that great.

Generally i was agreeing with you on the first part...

And put some other things as an comment to your second sentence. /Nothing to worry about.

Something in the line : "yes i agree that i actually abuse weaker/not prepared, but thats the way i like."

So everyone that plays EVE should be good little fellows and not upset the herd? Wouldn't that get dull fast.

so when someone rages about losing an internet spaceship they have no responsibility to control their emotions?
kind of like your posts. You throw out insults yet somehow think that you are still occupying the moral highground?
Sorry, but life does not work that way. You are the one with the psychological issues as you are so apt at demonstrating - thank you



lol why are you so angry?



lol you angry man. Did i just kill your precious internet pixels or something?
lols



lol keep laughing! lol

Aww.. so many insults. keep going bro



internet tough guy spotted. lols

Thanks for the laughs.

What is the point in a post like that? I would go to the zoo if I want to hear meaningless noises.


I did not say I am miserable. What dissatisfaction I have is the amount of "work" to have the same few repeated experiences.

I am talking about the desires of others to make people unhappy.

I agree with your statement here. But, how do you beat a cyber bully then? The same way you beat one in real life. You stand up to him/her/them. You may get a beating. But thats nothing compaired to the humiliation that you feel when you back down from the bully(s). Plus, once you stand up to a bully. He/she/they usually back off because they realize you can't be pushed around anymore. Atleast not without a fight. And bullys are all the same, inperson or online.

The best way to stop all this nonsense is to organize. But, and you have to agree with me here, its easier to come to the forums and complain about it and talk about morality in gaming, or changing game mechanics, etc, etc...

Right now as a hisec miner, I'm being harrassed in game. Am I going to complain? Nope, I'm taking the fight to them. Where and when they least expect it. Within the rules of the game. Will I loose? Probably. But, after going at them over and over and over again. I think they'll move along to someone else. Hopefully.

Agreed it would take a lot of time to organize and execute. Are you going somewhere? Are you quiting EVE anytime soon? Time is on your side. Don't make the mistake alot of newer and some older players make, EVE is not an instant gratification game. Research your target, come up with a plan, practice the plan, then execute same. Plus, anything worthwhile in EVE will never come easy. You know that.

Yeah but in real life, you can throw in the sucker punch and maybe leave him with a broken nose before you get stomped.

This is not the case in eve. You either blow them up or you don't. If you don't, they'll be plenty happy to continue padding their killboard with easy kills until you get bored and give up. If you have the juice behind you to take them out, you probably wouldn't have been a target to begin with as they are even more risk-averse than the carebears they deride (for the precious killboard).

Back in the 70s and 80s there would be an occasional news blurb about small groups of teenagers who got caught setting dogs on fire, killing livestock, torturing cats, and such other sick shenanigans. I recall one case from upstate New York in the 80s where the group finally killed somebody. There was even a book about it, where in one chapter of of them describes how they burned a poodle to death in an old washing machine and marvelled at how the screaming almost sounded human.

Once more, CCP = "Crowd Control Productions" and because of this product there are less pets being murdered by sadistic kids, less new cars being keyed, less factory and warehouse windows being broken for no reason, and less homes being vandalized.

In the end what a griefer does is vandalism.

Look at it this way. When you spend time in a game (that comes with the prerequisite of "wasting time" - let's not forget that), you are expending life. Your time in life is finite. The same goes with your RL labors. You expend time to create some wealth or sustenance. You can work hard to have something material, and along comes some sub-human who vandalizes it for no reason. They see a new barn, they rip the doors off. They see a new car, they key it. RL labor is RL life expended to gain RL goods. Nothing new there. Taxation is a way to gain such life of others, directly related to their labors, and such that people who clamor for bigger checks or more war also rob your life.

Vandalism is real. Now the game is not. But the question is: is the motivation for the vandalism a meta-value to the game? The motivation to gank a faction BS may be the same as the motivation to smash a new mailbox (a country-side sport I am told). There are game-based reasons: warfare, conquest, king of the mountain, duels, and yes rollplaying a lunatic who kills everything.

I have known other players who were "noob harvesters" to the core - they would kill everything they saw - but they were honest and had my respect. They logged in for one purpose: to kill you. It truly was a game to them, but they were actually respectable players. If you didn't want to be killed by them, don't be caught by them. But they chatted in complete sentences, offered advice, and had enough ISK to donate to noobs they killed and that came along with advice.


All that I have asked is that the vandals admit their true nature. If you take glee in destroying something in a game, where there was nothing to gain from it, then you are not far from some kid that sees a car parked near the woods and smashes the windows, or someone who breaks into a construction site and tries to drive the backhoe into an open foundation (seen that tried).

But since this is a game, and people are therefore not expending life on real tangible things, you are more free to admit what you are. Again, I knew people who killed everything for the lols but that was the game they were playing because NPCs were beneath them. But they didn't do it to upset anybody, even if someone who did get upset was free to be public about it.


I wonder if those people who tortured animals and vandalized homes and cars, still living today, even bother to admit what they did, to themselves. Seeing how nobody will admit to it here, in the forums, makes me wonder about that. Still, you can go offsite and find their blogs and forums depicting how they relish in how some guy got angry and what they said.

But why hide it here when they already say that CCP allows it and it's part of the game? Why the aversion to telling the truth in THIS forum?

... and yet you do the same.