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Where's the rage?
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Caldari Citizen 20120308
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-01 09:00:47 UTC
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).
Dave Stark
#2 - 2013-06-01 09:02:37 UTC
you mean aside from the fact that it's not "all" we're getting, and even if it was, it's an excellent change?

i think being almost finished with tiericide, a scanning system that isn't tedious and boring, a massive resource shakeup, and some rather nice ui tweaks make a pretty good expansion.

however you're entitled to your opinion even if it is hideously wrong.
AzAkiR NaLDa
Council of Exiles
Brave Collective
#3 - 2013-06-01 09:03:00 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


Seems like you are one of few that want content rich expansions instead of fixes. Get out off your CQ go outside so we can kill you.

Lone Star Warrior
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#4 - 2013-06-01 09:05:14 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270

Page full of stickies says you're wrong.

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tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-01 09:05:15 UTC
The main rage over Incarna was more about the changing attitude of CCP (hilarious microtransactions, Greed is Good) and the poor, limited, forced nature of the CQ than the fact there was a CQ itself.

Whereas Odyssey is actually bringing quite a lot. There's likely more too.
Caldari Citizen 20120308
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-06-01 09:05:41 UTC
AzAkiR NaLDa wrote:
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


Seems like you are one of few that want content rich expansions instead of fixes. Get out off your CQ go outside so we can kill you.



Fixes are constant with mmo's, Content is always needed.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-01 09:06:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jowen Datloran
CCP has gotten their promises and expectations management under control; Never promise anything concrete for now, but hint at things for the future. Never let the players expect something, but let them feel special when they get bread crumbs.

Add: It is a pretty basic marketing practice btw.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Caldari Citizen 20120308
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-01 09:08:49 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
CCP has gotten their promises and expectations management under control; Never promise anything concrete for now, but hint at things for the future. Never let the players expect something, but let them feel special when they get bread crumbs.


Nothing wrong with that.
Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#9 - 2013-06-01 09:09:35 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
AzAkiR NaLDa wrote:
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


Seems like you are one of few that want content rich expansions instead of fixes. Get out off your CQ go outside so we can kill you.



Fixes are constant with mmo's, Content is always needed.


Complain when you pay £50 for an expansion and get nothing. You forget all the under the hood stuff as well they do to prepare for later ones.

So much market speculation stuff, warfare stuff and exploration changes in this one anyway.

You know wow is that way, you can play pokewow now and plants vs zombies in it too
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-01 09:12:05 UTC
No, but it also answer why nobody feel enraged (entitled) with the next "expansion".

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-01 09:13:54 UTC
Dalmont Delantee wrote:
Complain when you pay £50 for an expansion and get nothing. You forget all the under the hood stuff as well they do to prepare for later ones.

So much market speculation stuff, warfare stuff and exploration changes in this one anyway.

You know wow is that way, you can play pokewow now and plants vs zombies in it too


Market speculation is driven by players, for a start. Do you mean mineral supply changes?

No, no, the OP has a fair point. Yes, I agree these changes are fantastic and necessary, but the expansion is a bit barebones. Honestly I wouldn't mind except for the fact that the last expansion was pretty meagre too. No chance of a big ol' pomp-and-ceremony expansion at some point in the near future?

Dodixie > Hek
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2013-06-01 09:18:34 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
but the expansion is a bit barebones. Honestly I wouldn't mind except for the fact that the last expansion was pretty meagre too. No chance of a big ol' pomp-and-ceremony expansion at some point in the near future?


Clearly you dont fly an Apoc or any Navy Issue BSes.

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Elinarien
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-06-01 09:21:32 UTC
Given that this game is a sandbox where the content is player-driven, how can people then rage that CCP are not delivering "content" in an xpac?
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#14 - 2013-06-01 09:36:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Although this expansion doesn't even vaguely compare to the Incarna micro-transactions disaster, I have to say I agree that I am a little disappointed. They said they wanted to make changes that would affect everyone, and frankly I don't see much changing in highsec or lowsec.

Elinarien wrote:
Given that this game is a sandbox where the content is player-driven, how can people then rage that CCP are not delivering "content" in an xpac?


Of course, this is a sandbox and we make the content. This person gets it. Lets remove all the ships, POSes, sov mechanics, Industrial stuff and just fly around in our pods. We can make the content ourselves *Facepalm*

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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-06-01 09:44:43 UTC
actually with CQ we was getting less than we are getting with this expansion so . thats why there is no rage .

1. can still spin ships
2. not forced into a closet with nothing to do.
3. added content
4. ship balancing
5. ui improvements /?
6. possible improvements to industry and the eve economy .

incarna offered nothing .

if you want to know what incarna would have been like go play dust and before you drop into battle you will have a pretty close representation what incarna would have been like .

a lot of avatars standing around in room with nothing to do .

the expansions we are getting now are laying ground work better things to come .
Beatrice Bourdain
Eve Refinery
#16 - 2013-06-01 09:49:38 UTC
Being an adult, and this being a game, I don't really feel rage is an apposite reaction to some changes.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#17 - 2013-06-01 09:52:55 UTC
There is no point to rage, CCP has proven that they do not care about customers, so if you do not like changes just quit.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-06-01 09:53:55 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
AzAkiR NaLDa wrote:
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


Seems like you are one of few that want content rich expansions instead of fixes. Get out off your CQ go outside so we can kill you.



Fixes are constant with mmo's, Content is always needed.


Content is also almost always paid for. We get it for free. Stop your whining.

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#19 - 2013-06-01 09:55:06 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
AzAkiR NaLDa wrote:
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


Seems like you are one of few that want content rich expansions instead of fixes. Get out off your CQ go outside so we can kill you.



Fixes are constant with mmo's, Content is always needed.


In sandbox mmo-rpg's, players are the content. What EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, that's why the last 3 expansions were amayzing.

The Tears Must Flow
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#20 - 2013-06-01 09:57:38 UTC
Having a hard time coming up with something concrete to actually rage about.
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