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Decimus Barca
Clubs and Diamonds
#1 - 2013-05-31 20:00:20 UTC
Hello Good people of Eve!

A wee little noob has some questions for you. I am a few days away from my Megathron, and am in need of fitting advice!

I know i am looking to fit some sexy rails guns on my sweet, and have started the traning for them, But as far as subsystems go (Tank/Anything for medium and low slots) i am a bit shell shocked by all the cool new toys!

I should note that she will be a ratting ship and hold me over until i get into the Kronos

So shoot!! Share with me your wisdom!
Lol
Jester Cap
A better day
#2 - 2013-05-31 22:29:25 UTC
Alright dewd,

I hope you don't take it the wrong way, but you should not be doing lvl 4s with a month old character.

Here is the reason why. Sure you will be able to fly the hull, mount some guns and even some tank AAAAND you might be able to actually complete some lvl 4 missions but it will take you about two and a half hours, making it not very profitable. On top of that you wont be able to do some of the harder and mroe profitable lvl 4s. You jsut don't do enough DPS and you dont apply dps very well and your tank probably sucks too.

Instead, focus on battle cruiser skills and do lvl 3s. Trust me, you will make more money in the same time you complete lvl 4s in your Megathron. Much more money. Plus, skilling battlecrusiers will also help you in potential PvP you might want to consider doing. Battleships, not so much. (really you should be doing frig PvP and skillng frigs)

So, in a best case scenario, you will take about two and a half hours to do lvl 4s. in the worest case scenario you will lose your Megathron and rage quit the game.

Follow the natural progression and don't fly ships too early with too low skills. You need all the support skills. You will do better in your cruiser/battle cruiser. Trust me, i made the mistake as well. i was way too early flying the Megathron.

You will be rewarded more if you take your time. I know, its tempting to fly those
shiny Battleships and claim to be a Battleship Pilot. But trust me. Your toon skills are too low and you will rage quit or at least be very disappointed and struggling for a while.

I wont even tell you how long it will take you to fly a Kronos properly. You might rage quit and uninstall right away.

DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#3 - 2013-05-31 22:47:57 UTC
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Alright dewd,

I hope you don't take it the wrong way, but you should not be doing lvl 4s with a month old character.

I would point you to this sentence in the OP's post:
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I should note that she will be a ratting ship and hold me over until i get into the Kronos

Now to answer the OP, actually Blasters would be better for ratting as I can only assume you mean to fly this in Low/Null where the rats are remotely worth using a Battleship on. If you actually intend on ratting in this ship in Highsec, then it doesn't matter what you put on it because there isn't an NPC spawn that could beat the native shield regen with zero mods on it and there's no Plex in Highsec it'll enter. You could get to the encounters in Highsec but even then it'd be absurd overkill and you'd have a hard time killing 2,500 ISK Frigates with Large Blasters.

Now for fitting advice. Full bank of Blasters in the highs (make sure to read this post as to the incoming changes June 4th). Mids would be scram/disruptor + web (helps you hit smaller targets with those huge blasters) + MWD/AB + Cap Booster/utility. Lows are Large armor rep (or 2) + 1-2 exp hardner(s) + DCU + [choice of more tank via EANM and/or other hardners or weapon upgrades like magstabs/tracking enhancers]. Rigs vary greatly and are skill dependent. If you only have lvl 1 for say Hybrid Rigging and don't have all your core skills maxed then it'll be increasingly harder to fit the biggest guns plus everything else. Same goes for Armor rigs and dual LAR's.

Best advice after all of that, don't undock your new shiny Megathron until you realize you may very well end up losing it and all the ISK it cost to purchase/built/fit the very same day you start flying it. In Eve everything has consequences, even undocking a ship.

The Operative: "There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".

Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: "You have no idea how true that is".
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-31 23:09:14 UTC
i would advise dropping the plan to fly the mega, start training for a thorax

that thing is completely capable of ratting in null.

Art of Explosions
Nagamor
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-05-31 23:44:16 UTC
Assuming you take this wisdom and intend to power through with your plan all good fitting advice starts with a fit.

Google: Megathron [purpose] Fit

Learn the why's of fitting and you'll never ask for a fit again.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-01 00:56:47 UTC
Decimus Barca wrote:
But as far as subsystems go...



You're good, just for this one I'll give you a 5/10? well done ;)

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Jester Cap
A better day
#7 - 2013-06-01 05:13:50 UTC
DeLindsay wrote:
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Alright dewd,

I hope you don't take it the wrong way, but you should not be doing lvl 4s with a month old character.

I would point you to this sentence in the OP's post:
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I should note that she will be a ratting ship and hold me over until i get into the Kronos
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My bad. I guess I did not read the OP careful enough.

If you plan to take a Mega out (solo) to rat in null I will strongly advise against it. The first small gang that comes through your system will pop it. I reinforce my opinion to use a BC and if possible team up with a corp mate. A battlecruiser will probably still do better damage on a low skill pilot ratting in null.

I have seen too many young/low skill chars losing their Battleships and shed crocodile tears, ratting in null. And once you have good skills there are probably still better options than a Battleships for ratting and anomalies. You will probably be fine against NPC battlehsips with the Mega, but the rest you will probably have trouble applying DPS to.

A low skill char ratting in null with a Battleship is asking for trouble in my view.

As pointed out, next week there will be some changes with ships as well.

As I said, use and skill battlecruisers and team up with a corp mate.

Those are my 50 pence in da pub.
Decimus Barca
Clubs and Diamonds
#8 - 2013-06-03 19:35:30 UTC
Thanks for all the feedback guys! I guess i will have to do a bit more reading on what is going on with the new BC Goodies.

And yes, Our corner of Null dose not get many Guests ied ALMOST call it safe but a good scrap would be welcome.

Thanks for all the feedback!

If any of you kind gents would mind suggesting me a good Gal BC to start doing HW on i would be very greatful!
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#9 - 2013-06-03 19:39:27 UTC  |  Edited by: DeLindsay
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
i would advise dropping the plan to fly the mega, start training for a thorax

that thing is completely capable of ratting in null.

This also. I used a Thorax exclusively when I moved into Null as a new player. It's a great ship and very versatile. It's also absurdly cheap to replace after you get popped by other players.
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If any of you kind gents would mind suggesting me a good Gal BC to start doing HW on i would be very greatful!

Myrmidon... Dual MAR, Blasters + Utility in highs, standard PvP choices for mids. Although it can no longer put out crazy DPS like it did years ago, it's still one of the best solo BC's in the game.

The Operative: "There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".

Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: "You have no idea how true that is".
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#10 - 2013-06-03 21:40:56 UTC
I've lost a bunch of enyos to lvl 4's, mostly to lazy maneuvring, but overall, they work amazingly well for that job. So it isn't necessary to sit in a megathron just to run missions.

As a pvp starter, gallente got the algos, using blasters+drones.
A Brutix/Talos runs lvl3s in no-time. (Talos is far from suggested for starting out)
A Thorax even can well run lvl3s.

But lvl4s with low sp are just exhausting, low earning and a sudden asteroid/stasisdrone/scramblefrig might set you back many days.
Jimmy Doe
Creative Research and Production Services
#11 - 2013-06-03 22:26:44 UTC
Agreed. I have to continually coach friends and new players to not jump into a BS until you are very ready for it and know what you are doing with it. I know it sucks because you want to progress and get into a space caddy, but as I advise others, you're going to lose it and I wold rather you lost 20mil + fittings than to lose 100+ mil + fittings.
Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-06-04 05:31:07 UTC
Work towards making a Brutix awesome first, as it is basically a mini-mega. Once you are doing well with it, then it might be worth it to jump into a ratting battleship. Right now though, you would just be a gank magnet.
Uzbeg Khan
Henehen Conflict Logistics
#13 - 2013-06-04 08:28:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Uzbeg Khan
Oh stop the negative bullcrap.

If you're willing to lose it, go fly anything you want. You may wanna clear it with your corp as some don't exactly love comedy killmails.

If it's an effective way of earning isk is ofcourse a completely different matter...

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