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High Sec Exploration
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Tengu Very Much
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-31 22:20:26 UTC
So I've been trying to adapt to the new rules of high sec. IE. no more T3 exploration for 3 of 10s and 4 of 10s. So I was wondering what you guys were doing to adapt to this change. I've attempted a Prophecy which can scan down the sights, however My tank/DPS doesn't hold up to the efficiently of the T3 by any means. I used a Command Ship after that test and found the same result. however instead of 17% structure i left in half armor and for a Gurista watch vs a Command Ship seems ridiculous. I decided that a dual rep fit would fix the tank problem, but again would lower the dps. Despite the fact my hobgoblins were doing most of the work.

My summary:

HACs: seem rather close to the T3s besides the scanning capabilites
Command Ships: seem over the top for these sort of complexes
Normal Battlecruisers: aren't fit out for this line of work.

What do you guys think?
Emuar
Vak'Atioth War Veterans
#2 - 2013-06-01 00:39:58 UTC
maybe move 3/10 and 4/10 to low sec and remove any ship restriction?

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Telrei
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-01 00:44:30 UTC
Gila...

That is all......
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#4 - 2013-06-01 00:47:56 UTC
Gila or Ishtar with sentries.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#5 - 2013-06-01 00:57:13 UTC
4/10s allow Command Ships?

Somehow disallowing T3s from 4/10s seems sillier now.
Evostar
Google En Croissant
#6 - 2013-06-01 03:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Evostar
So I ran a Gurista Scout Outpost on SiSi here are my results.
I ran it in a Gila active shield tank (no clue how to fit a gila lol)

Gila Fit:
HIGHS

  • Heavy Missile Launcher II
  • Heavy Missile Launcher II
  • Heavy Missile Launcher II
  • Empty
  • Core Probe Launcher

MEDS

  • Large Shield Booster II
  • Kinetic Deflection Field II
  • Thermic Dissipation Field II
  • Scan Rangefinding Array I
  • 'Copasetic Particle Field Acceleration
  • 10mn Afterburner I

LOWS

  • Ballistic Control System II
  • Ballistic Control System II
  • Co-Processor II
  • Damage Control II

RIGS

  • Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
  • Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
  • Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I

AMMO and Drones

  • Scourge Precision Heavy Missiles
  • Scourge Heavy Missiles
  • Hobgoblin II x5
  • Hammerhead II x5
  • Caldari Navy Warden x5


I ended up warping out of the first pocket once and the second pocket was slightly easier but it did take me a fair amount of time to destroy the telescope. However the Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster did drop. Even on SiSi I was excited lol.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-06-01 04:06:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
Evostar wrote:
So I ran a Gurista Scout Outpost on SiSi here are my results.
I ran it in a Gila active shield tank (no clue how to fit a gila lol)

Gila Fit:
HIGHS

  • Heavy Missile Launcher II
  • Heavy Missile Launcher II
  • Heavy Missile Launcher II
  • Empty
  • Core Probe Launcher

MEDS

  • Large Shield Booster II
  • Kinetic Deflection Field II
  • Thermic Dissipation Field II
  • Scan Rangefinding Array I
  • 'Copasetic Particle Field Acceleration
  • 10mn Afterburner I

LOWS

  • Ballistic Control System II
  • Ballistic Control System II
  • Co-Processor II
  • Damage Control II

RIGS

  • Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
  • Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
  • Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I

AMMO and Drones

  • Scourge Precision Heavy Missiles
  • Scourge Heavy Missiles
  • Hobgoblin II x5
  • Hammerhead II x5
  • Caldari Navy Warden x5


I'm not a gila expert, but that fit is terrible. Besides the many slots wasted on fitting mods and the EM resist rig for guristas highsec PVE, the missile damage will always be pathetic on it, so use all damage increasing modules to buff the performance of your drones. Damage, tracking, range is all good. Also take garde IIs with you. The damage is fantastic, tracking is good and so is the engagement range. They're propably better then wardens in most actual fights you engage in, with wardens mainly providing long range capability. I'd also strongly suggest looking at a buffer/passive tank option for the ship, instead of trying to active tank it. You got the powergrid for it, you dont have CPU to waste, the buffer should easily handle these sites and redocking to unload the loot will recharge your buffer to full.
Evostar
Google En Croissant
#8 - 2013-06-01 04:54:20 UTC
Well I'm normally an armor tanker so I was bound to be way off. As for the drones, Garde seems wrong due to the ability of the cruisers to get 40km+ from you. But I will definitely look into optimizing the fit. Thank you for your input

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Zircon Dasher
#9 - 2013-06-01 06:51:50 UTC
I will still use a Sleip or Ishtar for any highsec explo

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-12 15:12:56 UTC
wait?... you have been trying to adapt to high sec exploration in a T3?,...... does high sec exploration even pay enough for that xD lols you need to go to nullsec dud, your ship has a god damn nullifier, what the hell are you doing in highsec? Trully, i mean it.
Zircon Dasher
#11 - 2013-06-12 15:19:14 UTC
Solutio Letum wrote:
wait?... you have been trying to adapt to high sec exploration in a T3?,...... does high sec exploration even pay enough for that xD lols you need to go to nullsec dud, your ship has a god damn nullifier, what the hell are you doing in highsec? Trully, i mean it.


You waited a week and a half to troll a thread?

what the hell are you doing on the forums? Trully, i mean it.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.