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What if it had all started today?
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Helios Aquiness
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-31 16:24:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Helios Aquiness
EVE beeing 10 years old got me to thinking about how much it's changed over the years. I the year since Iv played it a great deal has changed so I can only imagen how its diffrent from when it started.

So that made me wonder, what if it all started over but with the same game mechanics as we have today? Same buffs and nerfs, same ships and their stats, but no economy, no soverignty, no alliances or coilitions. How would the map look? What wars would be fought, what new alliances formed?

An interesting thought experiment.

*Edit* I should clarify, this is just a what if forum game. I know this will never happen nor am I asking for it.
Carebear? Im a brony, motherf***er.
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#2 - 2013-05-31 16:25:59 UTC
Well we wouldn't have any remove T2 bpo theads. I'm not sure how the forums would cope with that.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-31 17:20:58 UTC
The map would look dark. Because there would be no sov.

Dodixie > Hek
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-31 17:26:41 UTC
I think it would be interesting to see. This will never happen, but what if CCP started a fresh server? Would any current players switch to that server and basically start over? I think I might. Would all the people that don't play the game because they feel they are behind no matter what they do start playing?



I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#5 - 2013-05-31 17:29:22 UTC
Nothing would change.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#6 - 2013-05-31 17:30:51 UTC
I think it would be better.

Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
#7 - 2013-05-31 17:32:02 UTC
I love the "thought experiment"
but this would break the "Eve is real" golden rule.

this appart..
I would LOVE to be part of the land grab gold rush!
so many opportunities for a trader like me to TAKE OVER THE WORLD :-D
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#8 - 2013-05-31 17:32:56 UTC
We wouldn't have to worry about the little bees since they'd all still be in Second Life.

Mr Epeen Cool
Northern Misfit
Far Mt Logistics
#9 - 2013-05-31 17:48:09 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
The map would look dark. Because there would be no sov.

Probably not for long. If today is day 1, and the same people today are playing, I imagine the map would be quite colorful in no time.

After all the battles that we've been seeing of late, next week could end up seeing color movement or a few drunk diplos in the corner of a pub after a long night.

High Priestess of the Sovereign Realm of Explosions and Light
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-05-31 17:51:02 UTC
NO SUPERS \o/

Posting in a "Death to All Supers" thread

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Helios Aquiness
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-31 17:53:11 UTC
My understanding is that titans and other capitals have been nerfed from their original form, Im wondering how much of todays sov have been clamed and held since before then. And would those people be able to clame and hold it again with todays rules?
Carebear? Im a brony, motherf***er.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-05-31 17:56:12 UTC
Remove local and I would be all for it.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#13 - 2013-05-31 17:58:14 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Remove local and I would be all for it.


Remove hisec and local and anyone who isnt in an alliance at once.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Northern Misfit
Far Mt Logistics
#14 - 2013-05-31 17:58:38 UTC
It's possible that it would take longer, but I think that human nature being what it is, it would still be a driving force to conquer regions and hold them as their own. Maybe not on as big a scale as we saw in the past (or looking at the map), but I think that our desire to be the best and to have things that are ours and under our control will still drive us to invade, battle, conquer and defend.

High Priestess of the Sovereign Realm of Explosions and Light
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#15 - 2013-05-31 18:04:19 UTC
But yeah nothing would change.

Those not in an exciting alliance would be stuck in hisec being boring as usual.

Again.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-31 18:11:26 UTC
Whoever was the first to anchor TCUs would have a good few months of sov invulnerability since there wouldn't be the pilots with the SP to use dreads or high DPS guns to enable effective structure grinds.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Erloas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-05-31 18:47:34 UTC
It depends a lot on if it launched as a new game that no one knew about or if it was just a fresh server. A fresh server you would see a lot of alts training for specific goals to get land claimed as soon as possible. It would be a long time before we started seeing too many t2 items and they would all be really expensive because it takes a while to get to harvesting any ice, let alone enough to put up a lot of POSs and you need POSs before you can get the materials to make anything advanced. It would be a mad dash and a crazy amount of fighting for a while but it would grind to a slow down quickly because no one has the pimped out ships to grind Incursions and level 4 missions.

What ever happened to the Asian server? I know they started to set one up for a while and it broke some log-on records but it was still in beta and I left soon after that.
Helios Aquiness
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-05-31 18:57:01 UTC
Erloas wrote:
It depends a lot on if it launched as a new game that no one knew about or if it was just a fresh server. A fresh server you would see a lot of alts training for specific goals to get land claimed as soon as possible. It would be a long time before we started seeing too many t2 items and they would all be really expensive because it takes a while to get to harvesting any ice, let alone enough to put up a lot of POSs and you need POSs before you can get the materials to make anything advanced. It would be a mad dash and a crazy amount of fighting for a while but it would grind to a slow down quickly because no one has the pimped out ships to grind Incursions and level 4 missions.

What ever happened to the Asian server? I know they started to set one up for a while and it broke some log-on records but it was still in beta and I left soon after that.


I thought they didnt have this game in Asia for the same reason they dont have DUST 514 on Xbox. China and Microsoft want exclusive servers.
Carebear? Im a brony, motherf***er.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2013-05-31 20:13:54 UTC
If Eve started today, I would hurry up and copyright AFK CLOAKING, AFK MINING and BOTTING. Everyone who did or said those thing would owe me a nickel....and Id be rich....rich beyond my wildest dreams!!!!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
YuuKnow
The Scope
#20 - 2013-05-31 21:14:43 UTC
Helios Aquiness wrote:
So that made me wonder, what if it all started over but with the same game mechanics as we have today? Same buffs and nerfs, same ships and their stats, but no economy, no soverignty, no alliances or coilitions. How would the map look? What wars would be fought, what new alliances formed?


If they had a 'do over' and DID NOT change some of the more messed up ship mechanics *cough*supercaps*cough*, then CCP would be mentally impaired

yk
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