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I just had a horrible though about the Amarr ship reskins
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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-11-05 09:56:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Dalloway Jones
So I have been on the test server checking out all the Gallente and Caldari ships and I love them. Heck I used to hate Caldari but the reskins make their fugliest of ships look pretty cool. And some of the homeliest Gallente models look pretty neat now (Celestis I'm looking at you). I don't even mind the camo so much now.

But then I began to worry about the Amarr ships. They are already pretty much perfect as they are now. In fact if anything the reskin brings Gallente and Caldari to the Amarr level of quality. Maybe they won't need to change much at all.

Then I looked at the Caldari Scorpion model and realized its skin hasn't changed. Which means that the other Caldari ships were basically based on the Scorpion skin...which means (Luke realizing the Empire has tracked the droids to his home horrified face) the Amarr reskin will be based on the new Maller models!

Please say it isn't so CCP! The Amarr ships are pretty much perfect the way they are. The new Maller design is nice but the quality of the skin is awful in comparison to other Amarr ships. So dull and lifeless. The black of the Sacrilege isn't even black. The gold of the Maller isn't reflective enough and blends into the background. Please don't ruin my beautiful Amarr ships!


TLDR - I am afraid the Amarr fleet is going to be reskinned to look like the new Maller model.
Apollo Gabriel
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Ushra'Khan
#2 - 2011-11-05 10:10:49 UTC
I've ordered a hit. Enjoy your last meal.
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
#3 - 2011-11-05 10:30:28 UTC
The main change I see is that the new skins reflect a lot less light from the ship. +1 for realism. In deep space, your ship would naturally look very dark with only the lights from the windows and on the hull to illuminate it.
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-11-05 10:33:05 UTC
That is a horrible change though and I actually brought that up in the test forums. Flying Gallente and Caldari ships in Genesis (which is a pretty dark system with no nearby Nebula) they are pretty much impossible to see. This was the case with my Maller as well. In fact I stopped flying it for that reason. I really don't want the rest of the Amarr fleet looking like that. Cry
Xeldrak
Khanid Spirits Inc.
#5 - 2011-11-05 10:35:44 UTC
Arthur Frayn wrote:
The main change I see is that the new skins reflect a lot less light from the ship. +1 for realism. In deep space, your ship would naturally look very dark with only the lights from the windows and on the hull to illuminate it.


+1 for realism? I pay over 2000 nimble minmatar-hands to polish my Ships while I sleep - I want them shiny as hell!
BTW: Eve allways takes place in solar systems - so, there is allways a Star nearby to illuminate my Ships in all their brilliance.
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
#6 - 2011-11-05 10:47:39 UTC
Xeldrak wrote:
+1 for realism? I pay over 2000 nimble minmatar-hands to polish my Ships while I sleep - I want them shiny as hell! BTW: Eve allways takes place in solar systems - so, there is allways a Star nearby to illuminate my Ships in all their brilliance.


-10 points for not understanding physics. Lose another 10 points for probably not caring. Doesn't matter how shiny your ship was polished, the way they look in tranquility might make an astronomer think we each have a tiny sun orbiting our ships at all times.

Most of the time I'm over 30 au away from a star while zipping around a system and my ship still looks bright. Pluto is 32 AU from our sun right now. The sun is dim as f*ck from that distance. Sure, many stars are different sizes in reality. But for eve's purposes, the systems we fly in can't have huge stars or all the inhabited planets would be dead. Sorry, but your sense of aesthetics is beaten by physics this time.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#7 - 2011-11-05 10:49:42 UTC
Dalloway Jones wrote:
This was the case with my Maller as well. In fact I stopped flying it for that reason.



Lol? You flew a - Maller? Straight

And you stopped flying it for that reason?? Shocked

I can think of hundreds of reasons why nobody would fly a maller, but that has to be the weirdest one.


Anyway - given the new Khanid/Viziam colour schemes for the maller, I'm pretty concerned for Amarr ships as well (especially my beloved curse).
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m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#8 - 2011-11-05 10:51:30 UTC
You speak for yourself because I can't wait to see the new Amarr and Minmatar skins. I love the new Maller.
Xeldrak
Khanid Spirits Inc.
#9 - 2011-11-05 10:56:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Xeldrak
Arthur Frayn wrote:

-10 points for not understanding physics. Lose another 10 points for probably not caring. Doesn't matter how shiny your ship was polished, the way they look in tranquility might make an astronomer think we each have a tiny sun orbiting our ships at all times.

Most of the time I'm over 30 au away from a star while zipping around a system and my ship still looks bright. Pluto is 32 AU from our sun right now. The sun is dim as f*ck from that distance. Sure, many stars are different sizes in reality. But for eve's purposes, the systems we fly in can't have huge stars or all the inhabited planets would be dead. Sorry, but your sense of aesthetics is beaten by physics this time.



Funny thing is: I'm studying physics - and could even calculate exactly how bright your ship would look at a distance of 30AU from a sol-like star. And to all the others: He is probably right. It's rather dark out there, allthough I wouldn't call it "deep space".

But to be honest: Eve sales on aesthetics, not on realism (max velocity for my Abaddon 100m/s???). So in this case I vote for suspension of disbelief and stick with the stuff that looks good.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#10 - 2011-11-05 11:03:10 UTC
They will do them the same like Gallente and Caldari.

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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
#11 - 2011-11-05 11:05:09 UTC
Xeldrak wrote:
But to be honest: Eve sales on aesthetics, not on realism (max velocity for my Abaddon 100m/s???). So in this case I vote for suspension of disbelief and stick with the stuff that looks good.


Shocked Who are you trying to fool? Eve sales on sadism.
Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#12 - 2011-11-05 11:08:37 UTC
Actually the new skins are based on the T3 cruiser skins, well the T3 cruisers were the first to have this type of skin.

So check out the Legion, I noticed it had quite a few nice reflective gold parts to it, hopefully this will also be on the new Amarr ship skins but ehh, you're right, the new Maller is pretty dull. I guess we'll see.
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-11-05 11:09:03 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:


And you stopped flying it for that reason?? Shocked

I can think of hundreds of reasons why nobody would fly a maller, but that has to be the weirdest one.


Anyway - given the new Khanid/Viziam colour schemes for the maller, I'm pretty concerned for Amarr ships as well (especially my beloved curse).


Eh it was when I first started playing again and the new Maller had just come out. It was my first Cruiser. I thought it looked cool but as soon as I flew it out of the station it pretty much turned invisible.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#14 - 2011-11-05 11:20:54 UTC
Arthur Frayn wrote:
Xeldrak wrote:
+1 for realism? I pay over 2000 nimble minmatar-hands to polish my Ships while I sleep - I want them shiny as hell! BTW: Eve allways takes place in solar systems - so, there is allways a Star nearby to illuminate my Ships in all their brilliance.


-10 points for not understanding physics. Lose another 10 points for probably not caring. Doesn't matter how shiny your ship was polished, the way they look in tranquility might make an astronomer think we each have a tiny sun orbiting our ships at all times.

Most of the time I'm over 30 au away from a star while zipping around a system and my ship still looks bright. Pluto is 32 AU from our sun right now. The sun is dim as f*ck from that distance. Sure, many stars are different sizes in reality. But for eve's purposes, the systems we fly in can't have huge stars or all the inhabited planets would be dead. Sorry, but your sense of aesthetics is beaten by physics this time.



Point 1: most nebulas are only a hint of light even if you are right by them. The average northern light is a gazillion times brighter than the average real nebula, as nebulas are essentially a few atoms of gas per cubic kilometer in a excited state and casting light. They are not cloud-like nor northern light-like. All those photographs we love so much are created by carefully picking photon upon photon for hours and hours -whereas the average time our brain takes to make an image is around 1/24th of a second. And the amout of photons a nebula casts in 1/24th of a second is not that bright, actually. BUT...

Point 2: you are inside a pod full of goo, your eyes closed, your body almost in suspended animation, and you brain is fed a synthetic, virtual image of your ship, your surroundings and sensor inputs. And that image can be whatever the interphase designer wants to. Can be augmented reality, or virtual reality, or a mix of both.

And it haves sounds in space, too.

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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-11-05 11:24:24 UTC
All I'm saying is I want some floodlights on my camera drones and I want Amarr to keep their current paint job.

Compare the normal models of an Apoc and an Armageddon with the "Imperial" version and you will see that in the case Amarr ships Pale Yellow > Gold.
Aineko Macx
#16 - 2011-11-05 11:35:30 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Anyway - given the new Khanid/Viziam colour schemes for the maller, I'm pretty concerned for Amarr ships as well (especially my beloved curse).

Quoted for truth and fear.

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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-11-05 11:47:32 UTC
If they dream up some sort of black and gold camo pattern for the Imperial Navy Fleet I am crossing that Navy Apoc off my Christmas list! Shocked
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2011-11-05 12:08:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
"The Dull Brass-Coloured Fleet" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, so I hope the CCP keeps The Golden Fleet golden.

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Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#19 - 2011-11-05 12:18:23 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
"The Dull Brass-Coloured Fleet" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, so I hope the CCP keeps The Golden Fleet golden.


News just in!

Amarr Empire bankrupt! Can't afford ship polish! Lol
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-05 13:55:23 UTC
Arthur Frayn wrote:
Xeldrak wrote:
+1 for realism? I pay over 2000 nimble minmatar-hands to polish my Ships while I sleep - I want them shiny as hell! BTW: Eve allways takes place in solar systems - so, there is allways a Star nearby to illuminate my Ships in all their brilliance.


-10 points for not understanding physics. Lose another 10 points for probably not caring. Doesn't matter how shiny your ship was polished, the way they look in tranquility might make an astronomer think we each have a tiny sun orbiting our ships at all times.

Most of the time I'm over 30 au away from a star while zipping around a system and my ship still looks bright. Pluto is 32 AU from our sun right now. The sun is dim as f*ck from that distance. Sure, many stars are different sizes in reality. But for eve's purposes, the systems we fly in can't have huge stars or all the inhabited planets would be dead. Sorry, but your sense of aesthetics is beaten by physics this time.

I'm quoting this just so you can read back and think about how stupid you were to use a physics based argument for EVE: Submarines in Space.
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