Intergalactic Summit

I dont question the motives of the cartel nor their allies giving aid to the populance of skarkon II, i watched the aid drops and myself and other cartel loyalists flew with hulemand and joshua.

it is not our job to question the actions of our leades but to follow them and the cartel regardles in battles or on humanitarian runs like the one recently in Skarkon



That might be true to some Mr. Foirtain tho i dubt the crew manning the two ships we lost on the way back in JPL-RA might say the same......if they was able to have their say on the matter,
we who are imortal in a sense tend to forget they who crew our ships also share our goals and sacrefice their lives trying to reach it.

Questioning the motives kind of lowerd their ultimate sacrifice to aid the skarkon inhabitants and provoked me, how you deal with the matter is up to you as it shold be.

Even if it was 'just one hauler', that would've been more than the Republic has done for Skarkon in the last 5 years.

It's simple really. We supplied Skarkon II with medical supplies and food. You can imagine all kind of conspiracy theories and secret agendas, but the fact is simple: We helped people of Skarkon II. The Republic hasn't. If you're going to sit in Pator with your thumb up your posterior and criticize other people's humanitarian efforts with failed attempts of smugness and cynicism, I believe that is telling more about yourself than ourselves.

Sapienti sat.

No, but I have official testimonies from people actually living on the surface of Skarkon II.







All published in public news you can access from any CONCORD billboard's archive or your fluid router interface. If you're having issues finding it, I can just link you to the news article.



I don't see how making your own personal profit on the back of the Intaki people is considered something that should be regarded as 'humanitarian'. Then again, you're Gallente, the Federation has had that outlook for quite some time now, prohibiting Intaki people to settle planets. Some freedom and democracy.

I'll just add that Stillwater Corporation has so far shipped 1 billion isk in supplies to Intaki V, the exact number to be confirmed by Salvation Syagrius as he's overseeing that relief effort, without making any kind of a statement about it or trying to score any kind of political points regarding it.
It's still good to see there's still people like yourself, claiming to be working in the interest of the people, doing nothing and trying to discredit humanitarian actions of others; I thought we'd have run out of villains at some point.

Former citizens of the Feythabolis Empire are fully integrated into the Angel Cartel society these days and are not kept around like political toys on a rack as the Intaki are. I think your analogy is a bit flawed there.

Helps if you practice what you preach Andy. You're turning into our mutual acquaintance from a couple of years ago.

If you are willing to provide me 'proof' that the Shakorite regime actually did something to help the people of Skarkon in the last 5 years, whilst a) waging a full scale war against the Amarr Empire b) randomly launching taskforces into Federation space for the sake of its own pride, and either of this with the flavour of c) which is that Skarkon is not being used merely as a political tool in the Parliament which it was, 5 years ago, to strip Karin Midular of her authority...

Well, good luck. Until then, I'll stick to believing what I'm seeing. You can preach all you want, it won't change the fact that the fringe systems of the Republic are unsustainable with the current policy of the Republic back in Pator.

Step back, let us take them. We have a solution.




Ah, there's the Andreus we know and love. Empty ad hominem attacks when he runs out of sensible things to say. I really much enjoyed the transcript of your last tantrum against... was it dr. Scherezad? Please, do give us another comedian jewel.
Or as Caldari would say, keep digging.

No, no they are not.

Indeed, much like everyone else under the Angel's heel, they have a pair of options - join with and assist the angel cartel, or be enrolled in their 'work programs'.

And by work I do mean profiteering slavery, where what you can look forward to is endless work until you die or kill yourself, whatever is more likely to happen first. Alternatively, you join the angel's ranks and become a part of the problem, enacting among other things the enslavement of your own people.

The Ascendant Frontier was the best thing to happen to the people of Feythabolis for quite some time, and... well, they are not around anymore and a 3rd option beyond the two mentioned above no longer exist. I pity the ones who chose said option after ASCN collapsed. I can only imagine what happened to them when the cartel moved back in.

I do hope your party was an immense success and that the food and drink would satisfy, because it was generated by the profits stemming from the sweat of your countless slaves and the blood of your endless victims across the cluster. If the food was lacking and drink unsatisfying, it would have been a complete waste, and I can't bring myself to wish utter pointlessness onto people who only exist to keep the likes of you happy, fat and rich.

For those of you watching at home, this did not happen.


The parts in which you asserted I was asserting things I didn't assert. You portray yourself as a man vastly more intelligent than I - it should be no trouble at all, right?

I will remind anyone watching at home that attempting to circumvent a communications block is a very serious violation of CRC protocol.


What you've provided is a long string of (rather poorly-formatted) text that could very easily have been typed by hand - and from the looks of it, probably was.

It still amuses me that you think the Angel Cartel is a humanitarian organisation, though.


Except just now, when you were putting words in my mouth.

Ha ha! Make an unreasonable request, then act offended and pretend to be vindicated when the unreasonable request is declared to be unreasonable.

Sure haven't seen that one before.


Let's stop this right here.

You call yourselves the, ahem, "Angel Cartel Bloc," but were you actually performing this operation on the behalf of the Dominations? The Salvation Angels? Was this operation in any way either requested or mandated by someone within the generally-accepted command structure of the Angel Cartel?

Don't answer that, because I already know the answer.

So let's call this the "Stillwater Bloc" and move on.


Ah-ah-ah! Stillwater.


So what you're saying is that the people who were part of the Stillwater bloc - i.e. your own retinue - can back up the shaky claims you're making about humanitarian efforts.

Seems legit.


OK. Let us for one moment take the very shaky assertion that you actually delivered anything to the planet's surface as a given. For the purposes of this paragraph I will pretend to believe that. This operation was not ordered by the Angel Cartel's leadership, nor any capsuleer representative of same, and I know that to be a fact. So that's not a humanitarian effort by the Angel Cartel, that's a humanitarian effort by independent capsuleers claiming (and claiming is the operative word here) loyalty to the Angel Cartel. If you did actually deliver aid supplies to the planet's surface, fine, that's laudable, but it wasn't "a humanitarian effort by the Angel Cartel," it was "a humanitarian effort by the Stillwater Corporation and friends." The Angel Cartel had nothing to do with it. Yes, you could perhaps claim that because you profess loyalty to the Angel Cartel it proves that people in the Angel Cartel perform humanitarian operations, but you're doing it on your own dime and on your own time (and, might I add, for your own self-promotion).

The Angel Cartel is still a criminal organisation that practices murder, robbery, extortion and the trafficking of drugs and humans for the purpose of profit. I never doubted that there are a few good people among the rabble (among whom you should not, regardless of the veracity of your alleged humanitarian effort, count yourself), but they are not indicative of the general nature of the organisation and attempting to imply they are is laughable to a monumental degree. The Angel Cartel did not spend tens of billions helping a planet in a vain attempt to look like "the good guys" while the rest of their membership are off killing people and sellling drugs and slaves. That would be stupid, and very poor business practice - literally pissing money away. The only reason they invaded Skarkon was to recruit people and make the Republic look bad. Ask Kalela Ohturold yourself if you don't believe me.

This is all fairly meaningless hypothesis anyway because you most likely didn't deliver anything to the planet.