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The Current State of the Empires, Socially, Military and Politically.

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Rogue Lawyer
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-05-29 22:51:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Rogue Lawyer
After reading through the Eve books, and the chronicles CCP has given an image of what the Current state of the Empires, from what I have read here are my thoughts on the state of the four great Empires. In alphabetical order.


The Amarr Empire.


political
From the last chronicle CCP the Empire is worried about the current situation of the Caldari State, in particular Catiz Tash-Murkon is worried that the Mega corps won't be able to pay back some money that the Amarr ( more likely her companies) lent to the State's companies. Catiz Tash-Murkon was also hinting that the Amarr should back Heth but that was shot down by the Empress Jamyl Sarum.

The Amarr seem to be worried about the escalation of the immortal soldiers, in the hands of the Gallente and the Minmator, but it has yet to be seen what they make of the pod pilots using it.

Socially:
The Amarr are just as they always have been, their people are ruled by unelected leaders, social change is hard to come by, if ever. so things remain as they were. A people who are deeply religious and easily manipulated by their leaders. For the average Amarr ignorance appears to be bliss.

Military:
The Amarr military although vast in number (outnumbering the next two navies combined) have ships that are extremely old, most of which appear to be decades overdue for a refit. The military in terms of sheer power per ship is probably the weakest, but due to their numbers they are a force to be reckoned with.


The Caldari State.


politics:
The caldari is currently undergoing a crises politically, Heth seems to be losing, or might already have lost his mind. But the lose of the Titan and the planet Caldari Prime seems to have pushed him off the cliff, he is losing support from the Mega corps, although it worth mentioning that the Liberal Block of Mega corps which include Ishukone and Hyasyoda have never been fans of Heth. What works in his favour is that he has the patriots under his command in particular the mighty Kaalakiota, along with Wiyrkomi and Lai Dia. But what works against him is that if things start to go wrong the" practical" block which include Sukuuvestaa, Nugoeihuvi and CDB would turn against him, because these are the Mega corps who change sides based on which way the wind is blowing. Either way, Heth appears to be on borrowed time.

Socially:
The population of the Caldari is the most tightly controlled of all the populations in eve ( with the exception of the Amarr slaves). Many people work for the mega corps and are loyal, so therefore when the leaders of the Megacorps swing against Heth, they will as well.

Military:
The Military of the Caldari is very impressive, they have the most Battleships out of the Empires and in a united stance are able to match any Empire, even though they have a small navy they are still probably the most powerful army in New Eden. That is mainly due to there advanced nature and the ability to multiply the fire power of a small fleet.

The Gallente Federation.


Political:
The Gallente appear to be have the most stable political base out of the Empires and the current President Roden, seeks to repair the damaged relationship between the Federation and the Minmatar. The recent defeat of the Caldari and the destruction of the Titan will have had a feel good effect.

Socially:
Again in this catagory they appear to have the most stable population of the four great Empires. The defeat of the Caldari will also have made them feel good. The Gallente also have the strongest economy in New Eden.

Military:
The Gallente Federation have one of the best fighting machine's in new Eden in the form of the Federation Navy, when required the Gallente war machine easily equals that of the Amarr and in my opinion is superior despite being smaller and can stand on equal footing with the technologically advanced Caldari. Both those two have the two best fighting machines in new Eden, above and beyond the Amarr and Minmator. The Gallente are also the masters of the indirect combat in the use of drones, in all intent and purpose if the Gallente were are militaristic as the Caldari on their Navy, they would easily be the most powerfull navy. Most Gallente are not inclined to join the army, hence the Gallente employ the most automated ships in New Eden.


The Minmatar Republic.


Political:
The Minmatar have a much more aggressive leader in Shakor than the previous tame, but intelligent Midular. They are much more aggressive towards the Amarr, with the help of the late Otro Gariushi the matar got their hands on Insorum, on top of the newly found lost tribe the Minmatar leaders have a lot to look forward to.

Socially:
The Arrival of the new Tribe has certainly got things interesting, the Minmatar Republic is a currently a state which has yet to settle down, it has been constantly evolving, and will do so for the foreseeable future. Of all the population of New Eden they have a lot to look forward to.

Military:
The Republic fleet is has the smallest fleet of all the Empires ( small compared to the other bigger fleets) they are still able to operate effectively in fast, aggressive and powerful attacks. A philosophy which their ships are built around. They have dealt the Amarr empire a bloody nose on more than a few occasions. The inclusion of the new tribe will only positively contribute to the power of the Republic navy , a Navy which although underestimated at times is extremely capable of unleashing extraordinary firepower.


With the introduction of the immortal soldiers, we have yet to see how the balance of power will play out between empires and the pod pilots.

We live in interesting times indeed.

That is all for now. Does anyone have any alternative views or disagreements, please do air them.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#2 - 2013-05-30 01:36:58 UTC
I feel like, with all of the turmoil in the empires now, the Jovians are going to make themselves known for some reason or another and help us all.. it would be a very interesting plot point.
Horatius Caul
Kitzless
#3 - 2013-05-30 09:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Horatius Caul
Rogue Lawyer wrote:

The Amarr Empire.


political
From the last chronicle CCP the Empire is worried about the current situation of the Caldari State, in particular Catiz Tash-Murkon is worried that the Mega corps won't be able to pay back some money that the Amarr ( more likely her companies) lent to the State's companies. Catiz Tash-Murkon was also hinting that the Amarr should back Heth but that was shot down by the Empress Jamyl Sarum.

The Amarr seem to be worried about the escalation of the immortal soldiers, in the hands of the Gallente and the Minmator, but it has yet to be seen what they make of the pod pilots using it.

Socially:
The Amarr are just as they always have been, their people are ruled by unelected leaders, social change is hard to come by, if ever. so things remain as they were. A people who are deeply religious and easily manipulated by their leaders. For the average Amarr ignorance appears to be bliss.

Military:
The Amarr military although vast in number (outnumbering the next two navies combined) have ships that are extremely old, most of which appear to be decades overdue for a refit. The military in terms of sheer power per ship is probably the weakest, but due to their numbers they are a force to be reckoned with.
Someone seems a bit biased, if I may say so.

First of all, you don't touch on the evident power struggle between the traditionalists (Ardishapur, Kador) and the progressives (Jamyl, Tash-Murkon, Kor-Azor) - probably the most pressing political matter in the Empire at the moment. There is also the reconciliation between the Empire and the Khanid Kingdom.

On the social topic, you've written something that sounds like Gallente propaganda. If you took the time to read recent news arcs, you'd be aware that the royal houses have recently instated an education reform designed to improve education for all commoners. There have also been vocal concerns raised about religious rule in the Kor-Azor house, and concerns over excessive religious celebrations in Kador.

Sure, slavery is still going strong, but that doesn't mean that life in the Empire is static.

Rogue Lawyer wrote:

The Minmatar Republic.


Political:
The Minmatar have a much more aggressive leader in Shakor than the previous tame, but intelligent Midular. They are much more aggressive towards the Amarr, with the help of the late Otro Gariushi the matar got their hands on Insorum, on top of the newly found lost tribe the Minmatar leaders have a lot to look forward to.

Socially:
The Arrival of the new Tribe has certainly got things interesting, the Minmatar Republic is a currently a state which has yet to settle down, it has been constantly evolving, and will do so for the foreseeable future. Of all the population of New Eden they have a lot to look forward to.

Military:
The Republic fleet is has the smallest fleet of all the Empires ( small compared to the other bigger fleets) they are still able to operate effectively in fast, aggressive and powerful attacks. A philosophy which their ships are built around. They have dealt the Amarr empire a bloody nose on more than a few occasions. The inclusion of the new tribe will only positively contribute to the power of the Republic navy , a Navy which although underestimated at times is extremely capable of unleashing extraordinary firepower.

By "new tribe" I have to assume you mean the Starkmanir. The Starkmanir are not the only tribe to return to the Republic - the Nefantar and Thukkers have also joined Shakor's Tribal Government, and as a whole they're not integrating well.

It's been five years since The Empyrean Age. Reading the books and chronicles isn't gonna be enough to produce a representative overview of the current state of the Empires. The news articles are where most of the politics and progress in the storyline happen.
Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-03 17:51:55 UTC
As a political scientist, I disagree with your political description of the Gallente Federation. "Stable" is a word that should never be used to describe a democracy, as it is anything but. Disagreements and infighting are not as visible in the Federation as they are in the Caldari State and the Ammar Empire because they are hiding in plain sight; they are expected, even necessary.

The remaining portions of your assessment are accurate, or at least as close as you can get. Well done.

Dr. Nicolas A. Merovech, Ph. D, M.D.

Ichi Takiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-16 15:05:02 UTC
Great synopsis! I'm a new player, and just skimming the lore's surface. So is it fair to say that four Empires roughly correspond to the following political philosophies?

1. Amarr - Right-wing Theologists
2. Caldari - Objectivist Libertarians
3. Gallente - Social Democrats
4. Minmatar - Tribal Anarchists

And how about the players that identify with each faction and like to RP? Do they generally mirror their factions views. How about those living in low sec or null?
Rogue Lawyer
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-07-17 00:14:57 UTC
Ichi Takiwa wrote:
Great synopsis! I'm a new player, and just skimming the lore's surface. So is it fair to say that four Empires roughly correspond to the following political philosophies?

1. Amarr - Right-wing Theologists
2. Caldari - Objectivist Libertarians
3. Gallente - Social Democrats
4. Minmatar - Tribal Anarchists

And how about the players that identify with each faction and like to RP? Do they generally mirror their factions views. How about those living in low sec or null?



You are right about the Amarr, they are fairly Right-wing so to speak and are driven by religion, at least the population. Empress Jamyl on the other hand I am not sure she is driven by the belief in God, I could be wrong but she has always struck me as an enlightened atheist who mere acts the part for the Amarr's empire people.

The Caldari are corporate authoritarians, who tend to be modern day libertarians., so yeah in that regards you are right. Its not wise to compare the Empire to today's modern day States but I will to give you a ball mark. Think of an extreme, extreme America but with no safety net at all. That is Caldari.

The Gallente are a mix of Social Democrats as well as wild west capitalism, they are plenty of rich people, but plenty of poor people as well. But they are a little more right wing than say modern European Countries, in the sense that they have the death penalty, as was used on the former disgraced general Anvent Eturrer. They also have a dark side in the sense that they spy on their citizens is that a good or bad thing? well you can be the judge of that.


The matari are certainly a tribal group, whose workings is revealed by CCP every now and again, but I wouldn't call them anarchist, they are attempting to build a nation. They are very war like and would die in an attempt to rescue their still enslaved brethren in the Amarr, as they did during the elder fleet invasion.

Eve has many shades of grey, but if Eve was real, it would most certainly the Federation were I would wana be. But then again its a matter of personnel choice.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2013-07-18 06:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Ichi Takiwa wrote:
Great synopsis! I'm a new player, and just skimming the lore's surface. So is it fair to say that four Empires roughly correspond to the following political philosophies?

1. Amarr - Right-wing Theologists
2. Caldari - Objectivist Libertarians
3. Gallente - Social Democrats
4. Minmatar - Tribal Anarchists

And how about the players that identify with each faction and like to RP? Do they generally mirror their factions views. How about those living in low sec or null?



If you want a real-world analogue: (Note - none of these should be taken as commentary on the merits or lack thereof of the RL political structures mentioned).

Amarr - 1850s Confederate states economically, 1930 Japan politically
Caldari - A nastier version of today's USA economically, with a state structure more like that of 1970s (pre-revolution) Iran, perhaps even more dictatorial than that.
Gallente - Political structures and economy similar to today's USA but less crisis-prone.
Minmatar - Quite a unique governmental system (no RL equivalents I can think of) alongside a weak but growing economy akin to that of 1950s Europe.



The Gallente are well to the right of social democrats. Their politicians would fit in with the US's Democratic party and the non-Tea Party sections of the Republican Party, and would be very out of place alongside social democrats such as Greece's Syriza, Germany's Der Linke or Venezuela's PSUV. The Gallente would also be to the right of parties with social democratic histories (that aren't social democrats today) like Australia's Labor Party or Germany's SPD.

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Denak Calamari
Incorruptibles
#8 - 2013-07-18 11:13:15 UTC
Ichi Takiwa wrote:
Great synopsis! I'm a new player, and just skimming the lore's surface. So is it fair to say that four Empires roughly correspond to the following political philosophies?

1. Amarr - Right-wing Theologists
2. Caldari - Objectivist Libertarians
3. Gallente - Social Democrats
4. Minmatar - Tribal Anarchists

And how about the players that identify with each faction and like to RP? Do they generally mirror their factions views. How about those living in low sec or null?

While Sabriz and Rogue explained the political and economic part of the empires quite well, I feel like I have something to add on the RP perspective.

Basically, the race you start with as an RPer is usually just a base guideline in terms of their views, nothing that you have to strictly follow. The characters that aren't just stereotypical Amarr/Minmatar/Gallente/Caldari are the most interesting ones, but usually their origins give some guidelines as to what they believe in or how they behave. As for null and lowsec lurkers, it doesn't really matter where you operate in mainly, it's more your history and feelings towards all the empires.
Ichi Takiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-18 13:05:21 UTC
Great info. Clears up a lot of the political intrigue in the game. I chose Caldari simply because I bought the Caldari explorer pack to start playing Eve with. Picked Stargazer Achura because I thought it was the natural choice for the explorer career path. Running missions for SuVee since they're based out of Saiso, the Achura homeworld. As a minority group, it doesn't seem like the Achura are the typical Caldari company men. I like how the lore says they've retained a lot of their indigenous culture.