Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm 27% colorblind to red/green and I support this.

It can't be hard to add an option to change red for blue or purple.

can't be that hard to use 2 different colours.. look at League of Legends colour blind settings...

Anyway, +1

+1 from me

+1 I'm AM NOT colour blind but I AM against discrimination. CCP need to be brought to account and help our colour blind capsuleers!

I'll be contacting my CSM Elective on this matter immediately and linking this thread.

EDIT: I've evemailed Trebor Daehdoow regarding this matter. If you want to use the below feel free but lets get some action on this and evemail your CSM Representative:

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2013.05.13 13:58
CCP's Discrimination Against the Colour Blind

From: Maximus Aerelius
To: Trebor Daehdoow

Hey there,

Something that's gotten me quite angry is this thread on the lack of colour blind friendliness of CCP and EVE. [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=234293&f=270[/url] Any chance you could take a look, perhaps add your view and ask via the CSM what, if anything, CCP intends to do for these people? I think it's quite disgraceful that in this day and age we have to fight for colour blind friendly internet spaceship pilots and we don't want to be outdone by WoW of all things!

Thanks R,

M.
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That's simply not needed. Most colorblind people are red/green and a few yellow/blue. Simply by allowing to switch red for blue would make 99,999% of the eve players happy.

You don't miss a color. In my case, some hues of red and green (mostly when they are bright) are hard to distinguish from eachother.

I change the colortag of corp members to blue to distinguish them easily from war targets

+1

I am red green colorblind myself and depending on the shades and size of the colors I am looking at, it can be difficult to tell the difference, especially when under pressure of time to identify what color something is. I am not sure if this would work for 100% of the colorblind population, but being able to change the red to a pink color makes a world of difference for me. This is what the colorblind mode for battlefield 3 does and it allowed me to stop teamkilling people when their dot showed up on the mini map and they were coming around a corner.

*bump*
This is indeed an important issue

I would like to thank the guy who brought this to your attention and I'd like to thank you as well for taking it seriously.

You asked for examples.

There are three MAIN examples in the current interface that I find difficult. All three of them are things that happen under time pressure and are PVP related:

1) scanning. When using probes to scan for ships, the little red boxes on the solar system map are very difficult to see. I can usually find them eventually by moving the map into different orientations, moving probes out of the way and studying the screen carefully to see where they are, but they are nearly invisible to me. Moreover, if the red bracket overlaps a celestial then it is literally invisible to me. It makes probing ships very slow despite having a toon with perfect probing skills. I don't have trouble with the yellow brackets, just the red ones. Orange might work better than red. blue would be awesome.

2) red-boxing. It's very easy for me to see if I'm being yellow-boxed but it's difficult to see if I'm being red boxed. I simply can't see the little flashing red brackets around the ship icons in the overview well enough. If I put my face close to the screen or dim the lights in the room while I'm playing then my chances of seeing the flashing red brackets are better but I often have to *assume* I've been red-boxed when i see the yellow-boxes disappear. That can be very hampering in a fleet fight when your overview is full and only 1 or 2 people are shooting at you and you would like to know which ones so you can keep at range of them.... Here too, orange might work better than red.

3) Flying ECM...... I've gotten over the colour-coding of the jammer modules by putting them on my ship alphabetically by race. However, because you don't use the same jammers every time, I usually have to write them on a postit and stick it in my screen to avoid using the wrong jammer. I simply can't see the colour differences between these modules well enough to tell the difference between the racial colour coding. In fact, I didn't even realize there WAS a racial colour coding until a corp mate pointed it out to me. The solution would be to change the appearance to work a shape into the icon. A square, a triangle, a circle, a line....

There are some minor issues but these are the big things that happen under time pressure when being colour blind really inhibits gameplay. The new hacking mini-game with flying red and green cans where you need to only go after the green ones under substantial time pressure isn't even going to be remotely playable.

T-

For the record I also support this iniative

I have already brought parts of the new scanner to the devs attention as being hard for colour blind players and requested a shape or other indicator that was not colour specific.

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With two CSM Members backing this I feel this should get some Dev attention hopefully. My thoughts on this would be:

Would it be possible to get a Dev Sticky (perhaps once Odyssey has gone LIVE so there's space) to enable ALL pilots with Colour Blindness (to whatever extent) to post up their specific issues\condition and what CCP could do to help?

I just think that instead of lots of threads being locked\opened on this issue if we had a sticky they might be able to collect more replies and really address this issue and save people 'bumping' threads to get others attention.

Just my thoughts. Oh and a free ride back to Page 1