EVE General Discussion

Any observations here?

gates are there because in the old days they wanted people to "meet". not having gates would require changing the way we look for each other. some sort of radar, like the old dscan but with a real functionality. and also a change in the way we travel.

think of games like SoaSE, that gravity well system can easily give eve another 10 years. or something more freeform like giving every ship a miniature JumpDrive and using stars as static Cynos. we could go jumping from star to star, so long as the destination star is within range.

anyway, regardless of how it happens, i think its already agreed among players that eventually we would like to see them gone, same with highsec, at least in its current form.

Gates ain't broken but they sure as hell are extremely limiting.

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Why would we need to get rid of gate camps? They're a perfectly legitimate way to protect your interests. Whether you consider keeping the dirty, dirty Hi Sec Hippies in their place, the non-elite non-null unwashed masses out of your territory, protecting your home Jspace from invaders, or are just bored/drunk/high and want to do something late night that doesn't require much effort (and can't be arsed to mine).

They're a pain when you get blown up, sure. but if you get blown up by a gate camp, you obviously didn't scout your way ahead using cloaky/frig. Or the campers have interceptors (or equivalent) dragging drones in which case good on them.

And mining. NOBODY likes mining. let's get rid of it.

Oh, and people hate getting blown up. let's get rid of that too.

well to get an idea why gates are needed . undock from your station . align to the nearest gate

engage micro warp drive .

you can let my grand kids know when you get to that gate .


As it stands eves construct is quite self explanatory for gates existing . they make travel between the stars possible.

if you want to travel to a system with out a gate you need some special equipment and logistics to do it .

either way moving between stars is not a simple matter of commanding the order engage, or JUMP!!, or attempting ludicrous speed.

in eve space is big just like real life . and trying to get any where with out the proper logistics will just end up being a very long trip which you may never see the end of.

in some ways its annoying but in others i think its one of the things that really seems to make eve real .

if you dont like it maybe propose an idea for some spice to be added to planetary interaction and then maybe you could fold space all the while mutating into a huge space worm . :)

Gates are Eve's PVP arena's.

I think gates, gate camps, and the options for getting through them are one of the most balanced and interesting mechanics in Eve right now. Why would you want to get rid of them?

I wouldn't mind seeing a few more options for both the campers and the runners; "nets" that could slow a cloaked ship from getting into warp, and maybe some more functionality with the MJD for running gate camps. But scrapping the whole system just isn't going to happen I think, too much of Eve is balanced specifically around gate combat.

As it stands now I can make it through 99% of empire camps and 60% of null camps. If I could adjust that I would make it 95% of low camps, and 80% of null. But really if lowsec campers were better at game mechanics it would be 95%, and if I was better then I could make it through 80% of null camps. So the game itself is pretty spot on imho.

The OP didn't say why it would be a good idea to remove gates and I haven't ever really seen a good argument for it.