Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Let me see if I get this straight.

If I've got them on my overview and no battles are in progress in the system I'm in I won't see a satellite active. However when a DUST fight kicks off on planet 1 district 5, that satellite will become visible on my overview system wide?

If this is the case then this is PRECISELY what I was hoping would happen in EVE, because currently there's no sensible way of roaming around and finding a ground battle to support without coordinating with DUST players.

Coordinating with DUST players is exactly what should have to happen. If you aren't then what is the point of you even sitting in space above a district.

Don't make it visible if a ships is on grid with the satellite, make them visible when a fight is happening. Idea by crazy space 1 on the Dust forums: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=875778#post875778

Fair enough, getting volleyd by an invisible Abc was still very unpleasant :P

I think said just before, but it sounds like the satellite beacon will only show on the overview if there is a ship on-grid with the beacon.

Not disagreeing. I really wish we had a better way to update overviews. :(

We have other plans for showing when and where there are active battles. This decision was made, as I said about a year ago, for several reasons. We were adding a new place for people to warp to while in these systems but unless we made them a global celestial you would just see them warp in a random direction and probably assume it was a safe spot. If we just added them all to overviews it would be be several hundred celestials added to overviews in these systems and that is no good.

I knew it was inevitable, also weird that this isn't a default setting as it should have been when the link went live. So far it is very "safe" giving starship support to dusties because 95% of the populace don't know this mechanic/option exists.

However with this current setup on how the connecting to district works, to a pirate it is pretty much see the active beacon and assume there's one target there, orbiting at between 0-7500km from warp in, and you know that they'll most likely be in a ship set up for Orbitals, not fighting. It's like finding someone in a FW plex but with less dscan. Intel on a Silver Platter.

Of course more organised parties will enjoy the free meal if they warp blind, but solo providers will suffer and may not be willing to adapt, it's already pretty hard for solo parties to find and get involved with the DUST interaction due to a lack of broadcasting where these fights take place, I can see this just putting them off completely.

Making active battle Satellites appear by themselves is kinda a good idea as it would still require the dscan to determine if anyone's there. Would also solve the "finding battles" issue at least for the short term.

This is by no means a perfect solution and I think it needs more looking over/iteration. You're essentially forcing a method of gameplay (being in a gang) on a player who wants to just provide support, and may need to at a moment's notice. That or your forcing everyone into coercers for Orbitals because screw waiting 5-10 seconds on other firing methods reloads. :P

EDIT: I essentially feel this is too much bias towards untoward parties getting kills, rather than people who are actually using the link providing support.

Isn't lighting up a pilot on-grid with an Orbital Bombardment platform the same a lighting a Cyno up though. You see 'em on the overview and in you pounce.

It's a special way to flag someone who's vulnerable and I don't really like that it happens when no battle is in place. Should only activate when there is a Battle and OB is online.

Very informative, thank you.



I kind of had the same problem, but where more lucky. ;)


I guess every somehow experienced payer does not use the standard interface. Therefor changes like this seem to stay broadly unrecognized.
It would probably be a good idea to communicate this kind of changes a bit better in the future.