Ships & Modules

Before I started what I mean by ECM boats are :: Griffin, Kistune, Blackbird, Rook, Falcon, Scorp (Yes I am talking about Jamming)

Other day I decided to take out my much need Rook, its been in my hanger ever since the missile nerf they did on heavy missiles. So I'm in my Rook and my corp mate is in a Megathron.. We encounter 2 Cymbals ,1 malestorm , 1 Rapier . so we engage them thinking like before I would be able to jammed the 2 cynbals and the malestorm easy but i was wrong, I wasn't able to jammed any of them during the fight and my corp mate lost his Megathron.

Now some would say need be elite and have high skills, well I have all the required skills to lvl 5 I have even Recon 5.

I check my strength setup on my jamming - (Rook and Falcon) Multi Spec Strength 9.9
Racial Strength 14.9

Now I am puzzle why I couldn't jammed those 3 ships in the fight.?

Then I notice the skill Sensor Compensation for Each Race which gives 4% bonus to Ship Sensor strength per skill lvl (Its Under Electronics)

Does CCP really need to make Jamming more useless then they already are. ( We all know how Jamming works and it goes on percentages and role of the dice so to speak) since the missile heavy nerf its kinda made the Rook more crap them before compare to its counterparts from other races...

Rook vs Curse... Curse will win as it has Nos and Net, then Drones damage bonus and has range
Rook vs Lachesis.. Lachesis will win with its Damping range and long point bonus
Rook vs Huggin... Duel Web and Paint it also has the range

Since they change the Damage Bonus for Rook to ROF and Velocity for Heavy Missiles or Heavy Assault Missiles..
make Rook a close in Ship much like Drake with HAMS ( I thought this be aswome.. yeah finally close combat if i don't jammed the ship right off the bat) but yet again I am wrong because CCP made jamming weaker then ever before in this game or am I missing something here.?

so wait, you are complaining because you were not able to lock out three opponents at the same time?

Gotta say, ECM feels really solid middle-of-the-road right now. It serves an important function without being an 'I win' button.

Pretty much. Sorry dude, it happens. They may have had an OGB with the sensor strength link fitted. Not uncommon. A Proteus or Eos in particular would make things rather difficult for you.

There are many possible explanations, but even so why should you be outraged at not being able to disable 3 opponents at once? You say you're not complaining but from your post and thread title you very clearly are.

It's extremely likely. And even a Loki pilot with no info mindlink will give +28% with the T2 Sensor Mindlink fitted.

Multiply that with the +16% from the sensor comp skill, and the highly probably +92% from the ECCM, and that Mega, for instance will have a sensor strength of 21 x 1.16 x 1.92 x 1.28 = 59.8, giving you about a 1/4 chance of landing a jam on him per cycle.

Assuming you dedicated one racial jammer to the Mega, you have a 3/4 x 3/4 x 3/4 = 27/64 = 42% chance of getting no jam at all in the first minute (I'm assuming you're not lasting more than a minute vs a Megathron in a Rook). You weren't even that unlucky; you just didn't realise how bad the odds were.

As an admitted ECM user you just forfeited all rights to complain about Ewar and eve in general, thanks and have a nice day playing this awesome game.

Seriously: You wondering why you weren´t able to jam three (in numbers: 3) enemy ships solo, shows whats wrong with ECM.

When you posted 'Rook' I knew there was a problem, then you posted Megathron and I knew the ending would be bad.

Those guys SHOULD have beat you. At the least, they shouldn't of had any losses.

You picked the wrong fight.

Those skills were added in Retribution 1.0. They don't make ECM useless. But give pilots some means to defend himself without sacrificing a slot. A thing that works for other electronics warfare types.

I honestly can't understand why CCP, after all these years, haven't replaced it with something that wasn't doomed to be broken OP or broken useless depending on how they tuned it. They ought to simply refund those SP and turn the caldari ewar into something else. The fact they went and added a bunch of sensor strength skills to train instead is just bizarre.