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Save the Rokh!
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Dax Redding
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-04 13:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Dax Redding
Hopefully im not the only one who thinks the Rokh is useless.
In fact, in the T1 Battleship class I think Caldari is poor compared to others.

If you look at the other Races, they all have a selection of good Battleships.

The Caldari have the Raven as a pvp ship and 2 support ships in the Scorpion and Rokh.
The Rokh just isnt good in combat considering its price tag which is around the same as the Abbadon.

Caldari pilots basically have to pay for a Navy Ship, or even a T2 ship to match up with the other races T1 Ships.
I dont know how my opinion on this will be met, but all I want is for CCP to SAVE THE ROKH!


Id suggest Buffing the Rokh as a sniper and introducting a T2 or Navy Rokh that bonus's towards blasters.
That would seriously boost Caldari hybrid usage, because as it stands, its useless.
MichaelWest
The Athenaeum
#2 - 2011-11-04 14:04:52 UTC
Dax Redding wrote:



Id suggest Buffing the Rokh as a sniper and introducting a T2 or Navy Rokh that bonus's towards blasters.
That would seriously boost Caldari hybrid usage, because as it stands, its useless.



I was under the impression that the Rokh was already boosted/treated as a sniper?
Sat Nav
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-04 14:42:47 UTC
The Rokhtopus is win, surely? 8 Miner II's? What's not to like?

And it's rather good as a smart bomb platform, from what I saw last night.

Niche perhaps, but definitely useful.
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
#4 - 2011-11-04 14:49:03 UTC
Rokh is great with buffer, neuts, and autos.
Dax Redding
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-04 14:56:27 UTC
Arthur Frayn wrote:
Rokh is great with buffer, neuts, and autos.


Is it too much to ask for a ship to be good at what it was designed to use though? lol
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
#6 - 2011-11-04 15:06:19 UTC
Dax Redding wrote:
Arthur Frayn wrote:
Rokh is great with buffer, neuts, and autos.


Is it too much to ask for a ship to be good at what it was designed to use though? lol



Rokh is great at what it was designed to use. Antimatter with an optimal of 100+ km with rails is pretty damn good. Unfortunately it was designed to do something that has no modern tactical value.
Gazmin VanBurin
Boma Bull Corp
#7 - 2011-11-04 15:12:04 UTC
The rokh needs to lose a low slot and gain a mid, that might make it via le at pvp
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-11-04 15:25:21 UTC
The Rokh is one ship that suffers with the current probing/warp mechanics, so the long range sniping role it's designed for doesn't exist.
Songbird
#9 - 2011-11-04 15:39:22 UTC
The new T2 high damage ammo for rails will have 25% tracking bonus. On top of that all hybrids get 10%? more damage and lesser fitting requirements .

It is a hybrid ship - hybrids are getting buffed - rokh is getting a buff together with all the other hybrid ships.
TrollFace TrololMcFluf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2011-11-04 16:06:46 UTC
You guys inability to adapt this ship to the current situation is pathetic and thus you people have no place in eve the rokh is a great ship as is your just to stupid to see it.

T2 neutrons with null gives you a good 40km of shooty shooty room before you start hitting double falloff and things get iffy or you can have good range and damage with antimatter

along with a decent tank to boot and a MWD

What more could a person want

Oh wait eve whingers today everything must suit them to the letter with no way to adapt so they die and cry
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-11-04 16:22:23 UTC
TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:
You guys inability to adapt this ship to the current situation is pathetic and thus you people have no place in eve the rokh is a great ship as is your just to stupid to see it.

T2 neutrons with null gives you a good 40km of shooty shooty room before you start hitting double falloff and things get iffy or you can have good range and damage with antimatter

along with a decent tank to boot and a MWD

What more could a person want

Oh wait eve whingers today everything must suit them to the letter with no way to adapt so they die and cry

you as a ****** **** doesnt fail us ,thx dumby
river Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-11-05 01:10:44 UTC
TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:
You guys inability to adapt this ship to the current situation is pathetic and thus you people have no place in eve the rokh is a great ship as is your just to stupid to see it.

T2 neutrons with null gives you a good 40km of shooty shooty room before you start hitting double falloff and things get iffy or you can have good range and damage with antimatter

along with a decent tank to boot and a MWD

What more could a person want

Oh wait eve whingers today everything must suit them to the letter with no way to adapt so they die and cry


As rude as this person is, he is right. If you aren't fitting the biggest baddest blasters on it with a MWD, then your doing it wrong.
Gypsio III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-11-05 02:06:50 UTC
TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:
You guys inability to adapt this ship to the current situation is pathetic and thus you people have no place in eve the rokh is a great ship as is your just to stupid to see it.

T2 neutrons with null gives you a good 40km of shooty shooty room before you start hitting double falloff and things get iffy or you can have good range and damage with antimatter

along with a decent tank to boot and a MWD

What more could a person want ?


A scorch Abaddon? Roll
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-05 02:26:34 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:
You guys inability to adapt this ship to the current situation is pathetic and thus you people have no place in eve the rokh is a great ship as is your just to stupid to see it.

T2 neutrons with null gives you a good 40km of shooty shooty room before you start hitting double falloff and things get iffy or you can have good range and damage with antimatter

along with a decent tank to boot and a MWD

What more could a person want ?


A scorch Abaddon?Roll


Yeah no kidding.


Optimal range bonus doesn't solve hybrid issues. Who thought this **** up?

More range on blasters with no damage bonus and you may as well fly Amarr.

More range on rails is just redundant. Lacking both damage and tracking bonus with rails is just silly. I'd rather have a sniperthron.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
TrollFace TrololMcFluf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2011-11-05 02:57:37 UTC
CRY MORE LITTLE WINGING CAREBEARS CRY MOAR

MOAR I SAY
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-05 03:00:06 UTC
TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:
CRY MORE LITTLE WINGING CAREBEARS CRY MOAR

MOAR I SAY


What does "WINGING" mean in that sentence?

Because I don't think that word means what you think it means, regardless.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#17 - 2011-11-05 03:06:17 UTC
Desudes wrote:
What does "WINGING" mean in that sentence?

Because I don't think that word means what you think it means, regardless.


This.
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-05 03:10:22 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Desudes wrote:
What does "WINGING" mean in that sentence?

Because I don't think that word means what you think it means, regardless.


This.


Thanks.

I suppose it'd be to much to ask for people to spell things right.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-11-05 04:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Wylee Coyote
Desudes wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Desudes wrote:
What does "WINGING" mean in that sentence?

Because I don't think that word means what you think it means, regardless.


This.


Thanks.

I suppose it'd be [IRONY] to [/IRONY] much to ask for people to spell things right.


Just thought I'd point out something...
Kale Eledar
Venerated Industries
#20 - 2011-11-05 04:34:43 UTC
I never really understood why the Rokh demanded such a high price tag. I'd speculate it's simply because the mineral requirements of the Tier 3 battleships are larger in quantity.

But I love the CONCEPT of the Rokh. In reality, it's sad because many other ships are used in lieu of it because they can do the job better (more dps, better tracking, higher speed etc).

Being able to field a Blokh, FINALLY, would make me happy on levels most players wouldn't understand. I mean, the nickname rocks. It's a Rokh. With blasters. Which might work, finally.

I have my fingers crossed. I love this ship and want it to have its time in the sun(s) of Eve.

First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.
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