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The Battle of Colelie

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Katarina Musana
Clan Leshya Offworld Venture Enterprise
#161 - 2013-05-28 00:34:37 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Katarina Musana wrote:

First off, the majority, if not all, of the victims were Matari, regardless of citizenship.


Pardon me to interrupt, but they were also for most of them Federal citizens. This is part of the crux of the matter..



Yes, that's where the disagreement over jurisdiction comes in, at least before a Tribal Chief died as a direct result of the shooting. Had Midular not been involved, I, for one, would be very much in agreement with the idea of a joint investigation on what happened.

I'm not privy to exactly what was being negotiated between the Federation and the Republic, but everything points to the Republic being unwilling to share any information in regards to the shooter, something that there was every reason for them to do.

Rioghal Morgan wrote:
You mention the ethnic origin of some but not all of the victims as if that somehow entitles you to spit on the traditional judicial system of your oldest ally and then claim that that's not obviously disrespectful of Gallentean culture?


Most, if not all, of them were ethnically Matari, not simply "some." Many of them were Republic Citizens. One of them was a Tribal Chief.

And no one was spitting on the judicial system of the Federation, at least not until after they spat on our judicial system with their condescending and insulting statements when making their denial of extradition known.

And no, asking for extradition in the first place was not disrespectful, but a legitimate thing to do considering one of our Tribal Chiefs was severely injured.

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Furthermore, you don't get to send two fleets over our border and somehow insist that the Minmatar are still the most grievously wronged party here.


In the specific incidents revolving around the Battle of Colelie? No, we weren't the most grievously wounded there. Or at least, based on how things look currently. I still wonder if there wasn't some legitimate reason the Tribal Council hasn't come forth with yet that justifies the events of Colelie, but unless they come forth with proof of it, there's just no way to justify it.

That, however, does not change nearly a century of condescension and other mistreatment by our allies.

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And yes, I think the Federation would respect the Republic's sovereignty and let the prosecution happen in the Republic. That's how allies act.


If you really think this, you're clueless about how governments work.
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#162 - 2013-05-28 11:40:48 UTC
Katarina Musana wrote:

I'm not privy to exactly what was being negotiated between the Federation and the Republic, but everything points to the Republic being unwilling to share any information in regards to the shooter, something that there was every reason for them to do.


Think you means Federation
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2013-05-28 14:31:01 UTC
Cipher7 wrote:
Katarina Musana wrote:

I'm not privy to exactly what was being negotiated between the Federation and the Republic, but everything points to the Republic being unwilling to share any information in regards to the shooter, something that there was every reason for them to do.


Think you means Federation


Typo aside, I would like to see the evidence of this. I've seen individual pilots complaining that the Federation hasn't shared information with the republic, but I hadn't seen anything out of the Shakor administration on that. There have been very public demands by Shakor to transfer Midular to a Republic hospital, and to extradite the shooter. There has not been any complaint that I have seen by the Republic government that the Federation was not sharing information about the shooter or its investigation. I'm not saying that the Federation did share information, but I'd like to see the evidence behind these accusations.

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