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Currently the radial menu only appears for in space locations and icons and the overview, plus the scanner access button. Is there any where else you want us to test the radial menu functionality?

Thanks for the info.
EVElopeda has not been updated with a proper Radial menu page.

I'm willing to bet that the radial menu discussed here and the radial for the scanner are in fact two entirely separate things.

Moreover, that button no longer has any functionality other than to produce the radial menu.

Confirming that mouse lag is now fixed as well as the mouse moving to the right hand side of my screen.

Thank you very much for listening and fixing these issues I can finally use and test out the new Radial menu.

yeah... that was a mistake that has been fixed now
The default is 0.15 sec delay

Hello CCP Karkur!

I came to post 'Please let us keep at range and orbit at 500m, not just 1km' but I see that's possible!

So I will instead point out an oddity. I made a short video demonstrating the below description: http://youtu.be/Kqa8jwpgiLc

When you use the radial to set a particular range for orbit or keep at range, try holding down the mouse button and swinging the mouse around the outside of the radial. You'll notice that the range kind of swings around wildly.

Further experimentation reveals what's going on. There are two situations with slightly different functions relating mouse position to the output distance you're selecting.

The first case is when the mouse pointer is (outside the radial menu) and (within the pie slice that is currently active). This is the normal use case - you choose a radial slice and continue dragging the mouse in that direction. The output distance is proportional to the distance from the mouse pointer to the edge of the radial. This works great.

The odd situation occurs if you continue to hold the mouse down, and drag the mouse so it's in any of the 7 non-selected slices (without dragging the cursor back into the radial.) Now, instead of outputting the distance from the cursor to the radial, the output distance becomes based on mouse dy. Dragging the mouse left and right does not affect the output distance - only dragging the mouse up and down does.

When the mouse pointer returns to the current slice, the output distance snaps back to the first form (proportional to (distance between cursor and edge of radial at current slice)).

These are just observations, I don't really consider it broken per se, to me this looks like a time saving hack that saved a programmer a lot of headaches. It does feel a little weird to mouse around and have the output distance jump around with no recognizable rhyme or reason. It may make a lot of people go 'Huh?' as they idly mouse around experimenting with the radial. But it doesn't detract from the usability of the radial.

My personal suggestion (if I was coding it and didn't have to worry about time constraints):

I would code the radial so that the output distance is always proportional to the distance between the mouse cursor and the edge of the radial.

Assume the outer radius of the radial menu is 100px. Say I click and drag the mouse 200px northeast from the center (through the Orbit slice.) Now my orbit distance is set to, say, 7500m.

If I continue to drag the mouse in a perfect circle around the center of the radial menu, my orbit distance should remain at 7500m, as the distance from my mouse cursor to the outer edge of the radial is still 100px. As long as I release the mouse outside the radial menu (i.e. without dragging back into the bounds of the outer radius of the radial), you should assume I am selecting an orbit distance proportional to the distance of mouse cursor to outer radius of radial.

Pseudocode:
var r0 = 100px; // outer radius of radial menu
var cx = 369; var cy = 248; // pixel coordinates of radial center

function onMouseMove(mx, my){
  if(state.selectingRadialRange){
    m_d1 = sqrt( (mx-cx)^2 + (my-cy)^2);
    m_d2 = m_d1 - r0;
    state.radialDistance = scaleAndQuantize(m_d2);
  };
};

PS please enable code tags

Please add option to turn it off completely.

Roger that

also ty for this awesome feature, no longer must I do two things to jump to next stargate (click overview entry, press D), now I can do it in one!