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[news] VIGILS FOR YANALA TURN VIOLENT
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-27 13:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
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The Citadel – Soon after news of Caldari Navy Executive Officer Mininela Erinen's testimony about Admiral Yanala's death was released, several memorial services for the war hero suddenly turned into impromptu protests as people called for answers from State Executor Tibus Heth. Several of the protests subsequently turned violent, when demonstrators clashed with Provist forces. So far, no deaths have been reported, though hundreds have been reported as injured.

Into the morning, Caldari citizens have continued to react with disbelief and anger to the news. Said one protestor who works for Lai Dai, “Tibus Heth must give an accounting of himself. He can't sit silent in his iron tower and expect us to accept this. Admiral Yanala was a hero and he cannot simply expect us to forget about this.”

Others have reacted with slightly greater reservation. Said a middle manager from Hyasyoda, “We've only heard one side of the story. Obviously if true it's horrible. But anyone who is rioting is just participating in a mob mentality. There's no proof about what she's said. It's her word against the State Executor's. We must wait for the CEP to finish their investigation.”


http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/vigils-for-yanala-turn-violent/

I guess it is hard for citizens in space to find provists sometimes. And thus I would like to ask you to not harass any State workers and security. There are other ways to release your anger. I believe that only those, who actually did something should accept consequences. Thus I am leaving my quarters(*) door unlocked for anyone(**), who wants to say or do something to provist supporters.

(*) Those, who can't find my quarters by themselves, I recommend looking for "Diana Kim Quarters" in their neocom.
(**) My offer is valid only for citizens of the State. All other trespassers will be kicked out with extreme prejudice. Members of hostile (gallente and minmatar) militias or navies will be shot.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-05-27 13:28:19 UTC

Takin it on the chin for ya beliefs eh?

I tink you should lock your door.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-27 13:32:41 UTC
"Leaving your door open" in the secure capsuleer area of a station where baseliners can't enter anyway is an entirely empty guesture - nothing will happen to you. You actually want to do something to help the people of the State?

Say you're sorry.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#4 - 2013-05-27 14:23:24 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
"Leaving your door open" in the secure capsuleer area of a station where baseliners can't enter anyway is an entirely empty guesture - nothing will happen to you. You actually want to do something to help the people of the State?

Say you're sorry.

Leave her alone, you vulture. She just did.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-27 14:40:22 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Leave her alone, you vulture. She just did.

There isn't a shred of apology in this post. There's only an invitation to enact revenge fantasies.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#6 - 2013-05-27 15:13:54 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
(*) My offer is valid only for citizens of the State.
Pity.

I hope you're not acting out of self-destructive impulses.

Peace,

-Ché

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Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#7 - 2013-05-27 15:30:59 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
Leave her alone, you vulture. She just did.

There isn't a shred of apology in this post. There's only an invitation to enact revenge fantasies.

Stop talking and learn to listen.
Aquila Shadow
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-05-27 16:10:08 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/tibus-heths-yanala-speech-cut-short-by-riot/

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New Caldari – Speaking for the first time since Caldari Navy Executive Officer Mininela Erinen testified that he forced Admiral Visera Yanala to undergo the Tea Maker Ceremony, a harried Tibus Heth attempted to apologize for and defend his actions. Before he could finish, the assembled crowd broke into a riot and forced Heth off stage.

                                              "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword"
Zsaryna Adrelana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-05-27 16:18:58 UTC
well this is a rather worrying turn of events.
I hope that stability will return to the State, one way or the other.

This statement is not representative of official tRN policy and merely constitutes the drunken ramblings of a junior diplo.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-05-27 16:51:24 UTC
In other news, Diana Kin was brutally murdered before her time by a mob of angered anti- provist after announcing her location and leaving her doors wide open.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-27 17:07:20 UTC
The people have a right to be angry; but, the investigation has not yet concluded. Let us first condemn Heth before he is punished, if that is to be our course. We are civilized; we are Caldari. This is not our way. Those of you responding in favor of the riots are more akin to my brethren in the Goonswarm Federation than you are to the ideals of the State.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-27 17:17:04 UTC
So you're attempting to appeal to the better natures of people by drawing a comparison to a group of people who actively and eagerly encourage humanity's worst excesses - by whom you are also currently employed?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-27 17:22:14 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
So you're attempting to appeal to the better natures of people by drawing a comparison to a group of people who actively and eagerly encourage humanity's worst excesses - by whom you are also currently employed?

Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Let us observe due process.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#14 - 2013-05-27 17:23:32 UTC
I'll wait for CEP's decision on the matter untill then i have given Kim-haani everything she might need after she's at an end of current path. i wish her luck on this journey may she find her truth.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-05-27 17:28:11 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Let us observe due process.

No, please don't mistake me; I'm not in any way saying that I disagree with you. In fact, I agree with you in the utmost - there's no reason for good, honest people to get hurt on Heth's account, because far too many have been already.

I'm just commenting that there's a little bit of a conflict of interest here.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-27 17:28:43 UTC
Naraish Adarn wrote:
I'll wait for CEP's decision on the matter untill then i have given Kim-haani everything she might need after she's at an end of current path. i wish her luck on this journey may she find her truth.

I, too, eagerly await the Chief Executive Panel's decision on the matter: not the Federation Senate's; not the Caldari Providence Directive's; not Tibus Heth's; not Diana Kim's; nor that of any other person or group. This matter is being properly investigated by the legitimate authority of the Caldari State, and any well meaning interference on the part of either Provist or anti-Provist loyalists would merely muddy the matter more than it already is.

I urge all citizens, capsuleer or otherwise, to be patient and observe due process.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-05-27 17:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Let us observe due process.

No, please don't mistake me; I'm not in any way saying that I disagree with you. In fact, I agree with you in the utmost - there's no reason for good, honest people to get hurt on Heth's account, because far too many have been already.

I'm just commenting that there's a little bit of a conflict of interest here.

There is no such conflict.

I would be happy to discuss any particulars of my arrangements in some other venue so as not to derail this thread.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#18 - 2013-05-27 17:38:17 UTC
Rulers can, and should, be removed peaceably. Fairness demands it, no matter the individual.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-05-27 17:59:16 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Rulers can, and should, be removed peaceably.

Should, yes. Can? Not always. But that remains to be seen.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#20 - 2013-05-27 18:19:03 UTC
I wonder what immunities before the law the Executor has. By all accounts, he has admitted to murder -- couched in tradition, surely, but driven by rage and haste. While Heth may espouse Caldari virtue, he lacks circumspection, patience, and level-headedness.

I await the CEP's judgment in this matter.

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