Wormholes

If I understand correctly, all current gravimetric sites will become cosmic anomalies called "Ore Sites" when Odyssey arrives.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but won't this make ore sites in w-space even more pointless than they already are? Currently, their ISK/hour is about the same you'd get in a decent nullsec system, and you can't rely on local as an advance warning to get ready to PvP, so you have to be constantly spamming d-scan to detect probes. If they turn them into anomalies, then the advance warning you get due to someone having to scan down your site (or your ship) is gone, no? They can just fly around with a cov ops and pinpoint your location without you having any remote idea that you need to get out of your mining ships and into combat ones.

I really hope I'm wrong, because I like to occasionally mine in order to replenish ammo and other consumables, but if the new ore sites are going to be glorified deathtraps, I might as well import everything.

Fair point, but won't the automatic signature detection still be limited by the scanner's 14 AU range? Most systems are considerably larger than that, which opens up the possibility of a wormhole opening up outside my mining ship's range.

Well, that's good news, then.

But still, it forces me to collapse all active wormholes and immediately stop everything as soon as a new signature pops up. It's a shame that I'll have to pick between mining and having visitors in my system.

You're never safe in Eve. Get used to it.

Which is what most WH miners do already? Mining with open WH's is a bad idea regardless.

And mining has always been mostly pointless in WH's. The isk/hr sucks compared to almost any other activity. You can't get any efficient refine. And the only way you can get the ore out without totally losing your sanity is to invest huge isk in a rorq to compress it.

Personally I'm delighted. Its one more thing I can easily right click and ignore when roaming WH space for either an exit or targets.

And knowing most miners. They will still mine away.

I'm quite used to it. If I wasn't, I'd still be in high-sec flying ships that aren't worth suicide-ganking, not screwing around in w-space. My gripe with this change is that it arbitrarily makes players in gravimetric sites a whole lot more vulnerable than other sites for no apparent reason, other than making ore sites easier to find. And while easy-to-scan ore sites must sound great for high-sec dwellers, in w-space it does nothing but add a significant security risk for a reward that was already bad and underused.


If mining is the only thing you want to be doing, then it's a bad idea, sure.

But if you're mining to pass the time and would welcome visitors to your system (with a hail of bullets ) then closing wormholes is awful as far as potential pewpewing goes. I really like the current system because there is some effort involved in finding someone in a gravimetric belt, which offers the miner a bit of time to get in a proper combat ship, provided they're willing to spam the d-scan for potential threats. But with Odyssey, it seems I'll have to make a binary choice of either sitting around being bored until players stroll in (PvP), or destroying all wormholes so I can mine without the risk of an undetectable ambush (PvE).Something that used to combine the best of both worlds will now be fragmented into two that ensure a lot of boredom. Feels like CCP just wants us to completely ignore ore in w-space and just import everything.

is it actually in odyssey?
because it's not at the moment you know, it's 64au.

How do you propose it should work then?

Create a separate category for WH sigs so they don't show on this new scan tool thing

This is not a change that can go through

Please do something about this! New signatures popping up instantly is absolutely horrible. Put in a delay at the very least (1 hour or so)!

Instant signatures on overlay means safer wormholes. No WH dweller worth their salt would want this.