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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-05-26 22:54:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Victoria Sin
Can anyone recommend a good graphics card capable of running 4 x clients at max with good rates? Does such a thing exist? I've got a Radeon 6770 at the moment and I have to dial all the clients down for performance, which makes it look sooooo 2003.

Eve looks so goddamed gorgeous with max quality.

(Also mods, please move this to the correct forum if this is the wrong one)
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-26 22:59:52 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good graphics card capable of running 4 x clients at max with good rates? Does such a thing exist? I've got a Radeon 6770 at the moment and I have to dial all the clients down for performance, which makes it look sooooo 2003.

Eve looks so goddamed gorgeous with max quality.

(Also mods, please move this to the correct forum if this is the wrong one)

A Radeon 7970 should do the trick, and a crossfired (2x) 7970 if you want to do max settings in addition to the upcoming 4x texture resolution update.

Have fun!
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-05-26 23:03:04 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good graphics card capable of running 4 x clients at max with good rates? Does such a thing exist? I've got a Radeon 6770 at the moment and I have to dial all the clients down for performance, which makes it look sooooo 2003.

Eve looks so goddamed gorgeous with max quality.

(Also mods, please move this to the correct forum if this is the wrong one)

A Radeon 7970 should do the trick, and a crossfired (2x) 7970 if you want to do max settings in addition to the upcoming 4x texture resolution update.

Have fun!


I heard driver support for x-fire with Radeons is rubbish and that NVIDIA do the two card thing a lot better?
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-26 23:29:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyancat Audeles
Victoria Sin wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good graphics card capable of running 4 x clients at max with good rates? Does such a thing exist? I've got a Radeon 6770 at the moment and I have to dial all the clients down for performance, which makes it look sooooo 2003.

Eve looks so goddamed gorgeous with max quality.

(Also mods, please move this to the correct forum if this is the wrong one)

A Radeon 7970 should do the trick, and a crossfired (2x) 7970 if you want to do max settings in addition to the upcoming 4x texture resolution update.

Have fun!


I heard driver support for x-fire with Radeons is rubbish and that NVIDIA do the two card thing a lot better?


Crossfire for Radeon actually works great for most people, but of course, YMMV.

For NVIDIA, look into the Titan series of graphics cards. The upcoming GTX 780 offers performance like a GTX Titan with an affordable price, so look into the GTX 780. Maybe even get two if you have enough money - it will futureproof your EVE for years, not to mention other games and programs.

EDIT: AnandTech posted a great, in-depth review of the GTX 780 - I would seriously consider this card. Wish I had it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6973/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-26 23:57:21 UTC
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
Not that expensive and I can run well over 4 at max with no issue.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-27 00:40:50 UTC
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
Not that expensive and I can run well over 4 at max with no issue.

This is not a bad card at all, but it might encounter some difficulty when the new texture packs come out. If you plan to use max + 4x texture pack + 4 monitors, or if you simply don't want to change your card for the next couple of years, the GTX 780 should work fine.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#7 - 2013-05-27 00:41:36 UTC
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
Not that expensive and I can run well over 4 at max with no issue.



I'm running one of these. Only 3 clients from it, but that's because I only have the three screens hanging off it (A fourth tempts me, but I know it's a bad idea)

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Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2013-05-27 01:01:16 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good graphics card capable of running 4 x clients at max with good rates? Does such a thing exist? I've got a Radeon 6770 at the moment and I have to dial all the clients down for performance, which makes it look sooooo 2003.

Eve looks so goddamed gorgeous with max quality.

(Also mods, please move this to the correct forum if this is the wrong one)

A Radeon 7970 should do the trick, and a crossfired (2x) 7970 if you want to do max settings in addition to the upcoming 4x texture resolution update.

Have fun!


I heard driver support for x-fire with Radeons is rubbish and that NVIDIA do the two card thing a lot better?


I've owned 2 7970's in Crossfire for over a year now roughly and they are SUPERB cards. The 7XX series of Nvidia's cards are just rebadged 6XX series just as ATI's 8000 Series are the 7000 series with some slight tweaks. There is no new architecture in the series for either manufacturer.

Granted the driver support for ATI is slower yet now the drivers show a 7970 outperforming a 680 with the newest beta drivers. It all depends upon what you want.

My 7970's never get above 55 Celsius (60 running Furmark) and have excellent power efficiency and cooling. There's a reason why 7970's are out of stock simply because they are a great buy with excellent performance.

Nab a couple and you'll be very pleased. I have no intention of upgrading until ATI releases an actual architecture redesign.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2013-05-27 04:12:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
I have a EVGA Nvidia GTX 690, which is actually two GPUs linked on one card.

Lag on session changes (like undock) is an issue the last time I tried 4 clients with max settings. Haven't tried in quite a few patches though. I don't normally use max settings with multiple clients. Currently max shader is broken on EVE with Nvidia cards, which is the first problem I've ever had with a Nvidia card, but downgrading to the previous driver fixes it.

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/pdp/lineup.png
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#10 - 2013-05-27 04:35:22 UTC  |  Edited by: mechtech
A 7850 will double your performance (which is probably enough to max 4 clients), and a 7950 will triple it (which is certainly enough to max 4 clients). You absolutely don't need a $1000 card or multi-gpu to max out 4 clients.

On the Nvidia side, a 660ti is equivalent to a 7950, and their lower end cards (660 vanilla and down) are bad value currently.
bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
#11 - 2013-05-27 04:53:28 UTC
Extreme Gaming at 146 FPS with AMD CrossFire and Triple Display
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQW2WyWSoUk
Barlkin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-27 05:33:05 UTC
I dunno what the issues are with NVIDIA cards as my gtx660 isn't having any and I run 5 clients all maxxed with no issues. Helps running eve on a SSD and 32gb ram. But it works flawlessly for me.

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-05-27 11:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Victoria Sin
mechtech wrote:
A 7850 will double your performance (which is probably enough to max 4 clients), and a 7950 will triple it (which is certainly enough to max 4 clients). You absolutely don't need a $1000 card or multi-gpu to max out 4 clients.

On the Nvidia side, a 660ti is equivalent to a 7950, and their lower end cards (660 vanilla and down) are bad value currently.


Really? A 7950 will be enough? Note I'm running at 1920 x 1080. Resolution will make a difference won't it.

I see the price of these is variable, i.e. this one is £360 whereas this one is only £202 .

Hmmmmm.

Oh, that first card was the Mac edition. Not a PC card :)(.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-29 14:22:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Victoria Sin
OK, I went for the 7970, at £360. Got it home. It's a monster of a card. Needs 2 x8 power connectors. Only just fits in the case.

I'm running 4 clients at the moment, all 4 optimised for quality. ALL of them running ~60Hz. So problem solved. Left a bit of a hole in my bank balance though.

Only downside is it doesn't speed up skill training. Just started a 35 day'er.
Othran
Route One
#15 - 2013-05-29 14:34:37 UTC
NVidia PhysX is supported in Eve, nothing similar on AMD side is supported.

Depends on how much you like space barbies I guess P

IME NVidia has less problems with Eve than AMD. That's just for Eve though, do think what else you play before coughing up cash.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-05-29 16:31:13 UTC
Othran wrote:
NVidia PhysX is supported in Eve, nothing similar on AMD side is supported.

Depends on how much you like space barbies I guess P

IME NVidia has less problems with Eve than AMD. That's just for Eve though, do think what else you play before coughing up cash.


They're all compute shader capable. Developers taking bribes from NVIDIA to use PhysX might have made sense in the past, but today it's nonsense with open standards like OpenCL and Direct Compute.
Void WaIker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-05-29 16:38:45 UTC
Hold on...4x texture update? Thought this was still unannounced
Othran
Route One
#18 - 2013-05-29 16:43:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Victoria Sin wrote:
Othran wrote:
NVidia PhysX is supported in Eve, nothing similar on AMD side is supported.

Depends on how much you like space barbies I guess P

IME NVidia has less problems with Eve than AMD. That's just for Eve though, do think what else you play before coughing up cash.


They're all compute shader capable. Developers taking bribes from NVIDIA to use PhysX might have made sense in the past, but today it's nonsense with open standards like OpenCL and Direct Compute.


Yes but that's the way Eve works - PhysX or nothing. I'm also sure that CCP has benefited from NVidia's "embedded developer" scheme as was.

So basically if Eve is your main game then Nvidia should be your choice of card. Personally I'd spec an AMD card for a gaming machine but that may be my bias due to NVidia and "bumps" Blink

For Eve however NVidia has provided (or Eve devs have made sure) a more consistent experience in Eve. Yes there have been (and are) some bugs but in general when I see a "xxx has turned into white blobs" post I can be fairly confident that its an AMD user - or Intel i5/i7 user who has the problem.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-05-29 17:39:52 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
Not that expensive and I can run well over 4 at max with no issue.

This is not a bad card at all, but it might encounter some difficulty when the new texture packs come out. If you plan to use max + 4x texture pack + 4 monitors, or if you simply don't want to change your card for the next couple of years, the GTX 780 should work fine.



This, any mid range nVidia card will provide your the performances you're looking for, if you really want top settings and several screens SLI works pretty good too.

Installing new driver is never an issue, rolling back is easy as cake, the moment you use WHQL certified drivers you will have little to no problems at all and using beta ones (later version still in work or polishing) is working fine for me.

You can take a look at nVidia official GC card manufacturers to get the one that might suit you a bit better, Gigabyte for instance can deliver the same graphics chipset with +50 to 200% DDR latest versions/excellent quality and a pre OC safely, they also provide you OC softs based on Guru3D (best OC bench ever) and better controls over your GC's.

Little thing thou but important: make sure your power supply can handle all your max power needs to run all your hardware stressed at 100% (even if this might never happen) and add +20% for safety (heat/durability)
It's not uncommon to find 850 to 1500W power supply stuff on gaming PC's and there's a reason for this.

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Daveion Steel
Steel Capital investments
#20 - 2013-05-29 19:22:49 UTC
I could use a little advice here as well, just now about to buy Windows 7 64bit as an upgrade from XP.
My graphics budget is around £200, £250 at a push my system is an AMD Mobo so I prefer to stay with ATI graphics.

I cannot help looking at Crossfireing two of these..

http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphire-technology-amd-radeon-7770-hd-1100mhz-1gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-vapor-x-oc-ghz-edition-87Q1.html?refs=486450000&src=3

I generally run two Monitors and duel box (alt-tab) upto four accounts when carebearing, two accounts normally.
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